2030 UK ICE Ban Delayed – Why ‘EV ONLY’ future is NOT the answer ! | 4K

Recently the UK Government revealed the delay of the 2030 ICE automobile ban by 3 years. I do not think an just future is the response so I believed it was time for a long waited for canine walk so I can share my thinking and offer you a basic update on the channel.

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00:00 – ICE restriction hold-ups
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41 responses to “2030 UK ICE Ban Delayed – Why ‘EV ONLY’ future is NOT the answer ! | 4K”

  1. Gareth Edwards Avatar
    Gareth Edwards

    Thanks for a great dog walk Vlog Pete. I would love to change to an EV but currently the prices of the cars and public charging is too much as I live in an apartment block.

    1. Petrol Ped Avatar
      Petrol Ped

      Thanks for sharing

  2. GRAHAM THOMPSON Avatar
    GRAHAM THOMPSON

    Personally I like EVs and ICE cars. I find an EV great for my day to day tasks and from an economic perspective, but I love driving a manual car for fun, so that would be an ICE. I’m not too bothered about the sound (especially as most new ICE cars sound poor and fake now), but some older ICE engines do sound great and that does add to the experience too. Either way though, the funniest thing though is how some EV drivers get upset by ICE cars/drivers and how some ICE drivers get so annoyed about EVs. It’s comical to be honest. I’m glad that they have seen sense regarding the ICE ban and hope that we get a choice of power units for many years to come.

    1. who cares Avatar
      who cares

      Yes ev drivers get annoyed with ice car drivers because they are poisoning the air we breathe, ice car drivers get annoyed with ev drivers because they don’t poison the air we breathe.

    2. GRAHAM THOMPSON Avatar
      GRAHAM THOMPSON

      I’m an EV driver (Tesla M3) but in all fairness modern petrol and diesel cars have very good particulate filters now and whilst they will always expel some gasses, they are a lot less harmful than they were. I suppose that with the rise of EVs, the air quality will continue rise. The main issue is in towns and cities, where you get congestion, so I do agree with emissions restrictions there.

  3. David Rushton Avatar
    David Rushton

    Love the video. Always love a dog walk. What always appears to come across in most media stories and yours too, to a degree, is that some people believe that it’ll be ev only after 2035. However there’ll always be existing and used ice cars well after that date and, of course, used ev’s, and there are a lot of people who prefer to buy used. I have an EV now, a mini. The very short range is not for everyone but in 12 months I’ve charged away from home twice. First time was at the NEC and I booked a charger but the second was on the fly, so to speak and I had charger anxiety, was it available and was it working. Luckily it was.

  4. MrFatknacker Avatar
    MrFatknacker

    Thoughtful stuff, but ultimately we will drive the cars that the global manufacturers wish to build – as has always been the case.

    Building vehicles across multiple drivetrain options is a very costly manufacturing model and involves highly complex supply chain logistics and so I’m guessing that won’t happen and I suspect that the manufacturers are now committed to EV’s and so that is what we will get – good, bad, want them or not 🤔

    1. Simon Gibbs Avatar
      Simon Gibbs

      True to some extent although margins are much lower on EV’s with R&D costs and manufacturing/supply costs way higher than ICE. I think it will depend on the manufacturer, those like Jaguar who has an ageing and unloved legacy range are racing to catch up with in house EV manufacture whilst others, pretty much all OEM’s from the far east, the US and Germany are set up for a balanced range of EV and ICE. The issue will be the CO2 output/unit sold requirements which to my knowledge is still in place.

    2. MrFatknacker Avatar
      MrFatknacker

      @Simon Gibbs – different scenarios for different manufacturers perhaps, but I think from a CEO perspective it is not the economics of today but the anticipated economics of tomorrow that they will be focusing on, and the relative cost models will change over time and also ultimately the only consumers they are interested in are those buying new cars, rather than the views of those who are not however noisy they may be. But time will tell…

  5. Stan Elder Avatar
    Stan Elder

    Nice to see those dogs and fields again! Good balanced discussion on future fuels here – very much agree. With regard to the state of the new/used vehicle market here in the US, I personally run an older vehicle that is owned in full. But my spouse just came to the end of a 4-year lease on her 2019 Hyundai Elantra GT N-Line (that would be an i30 – almost – N hatchback to you guys) last week. Since it was a pre-Covid lease agreement, the assumed residual value on the lease was shockingly low (at US $12,000.00), so we simply bought it for cash. Current used car market comparables for that model would be more like $16-20,000.00 (depending on odometer of course). Win some; loose some!

    1. Petrol Ped Avatar
      Petrol Ped

      Interesting 🤨

  6. Stephen Anderson Avatar
    Stephen Anderson

    One issue that gets lost in the discussion is that of air quality and the impact of fossil fuel burning. It would be good to hear a proper consideration of the air quality impact of the various alternative, rather than a focus on carbon emissions.

    1. Brian Moore Avatar
      Brian Moore

      51% of the poor air quality in London comes from brake pad dust and car tyre bits. Both of which are very bad for your lungs, whether you drive EVs, IVCs etc.

    2. sparkymark75 Avatar
      sparkymark75

      @Brian Moore EV’s use their brakes far less than a typical ICE car as the motors slow the vehicle down via regenerative braking. I hardly ever touch my brake pedal!

    3. Chris' Caravan Capers Avatar
      Chris’ Caravan Capers

      @sparkymark75 What’s a brake pedal? all vehicles are designed to ‘go’ aren’t they ? Driving and thinking ahead re traffic and road conditions mean you shouldn’t have to brake except in emergencies.

    4. HQBProductions Avatar
      HQBProductions

      @Brian MooreI think everybody should go for a walk beside a main road in a city and do around three miles…as you say, it is not diesel fumes but brake pad dust that fills the air…when I was young, my school was quite close to the Ferodo Brake Lining factory and so I can “taste” the same fumes to this day. An EV with ceramic brakes would be much better as a day to day experience although both are far from pollution free. 🤔

    5. Chris' Caravan Capers Avatar
      Chris’ Caravan Capers

      @Brian Moore I terms of air quality, the UK is listed as 101th in the world and well under the WHO reccomendation of particalute concentration (AS OF 2022) of 10 ug/m3. The worst being CHAD at 89.7 ug/m3 (Microgrammes per cubic metre). UK = 8.9 ug/m3.
      As Ped mentioned in one of his previous discussion, EV’s wear tyres more than their ICE equivalents. due to better acceleration etc.

  7. Steve Mitchell Avatar
    Steve Mitchell

    A brilliant well balanced video on a very emotive subject. Like you Pete I’ve worked in the Telecommunications industry this current EV only route reminds me of you can have any colour telephone as long as it’s grey. As for your channel the diversity of content is what makes it so interesting and great

    1. Petrol Ped Avatar
      Petrol Ped

      Thanks for sharing

  8. Alexis Avatar
    Alexis

    Evening Pete, agree with all that you say. We definitely need a balanced and inclusive approach to it all. As a disabled driver who lives in an apartment I am very limited in the type of car I can own.
    A pure EV is a non starter as the infrastructure that is going in is not of an inclusive design. There is a new British Standard which providers should follow but as it is a standard it is not a legal requirement and as more space would be needed to make all EV charging bays bigger, it is being ignored by the EV charging providers.
    Public transport is a mess as disabled people are ignore when infrastructure is updated, I could go on.
    I really fear for the future and my ability to travel independently. I hope there will be a breakthrough in one of new technologies that will give me the ability to travel independently by car. Alex

    1. Petrol Ped Avatar
      Petrol Ped

      👍

    2. Steve E Avatar
      Steve E

      I completely agree, both my wife and I are disabled, we are reliant on our vehicle to do everything. Public transport is a non starter and as we live in an apartment there are no charging points available so EV’s are not an option. It’s very easy to state on paper we will all be buying electric vehicles by 2030/35 but the reality of that and the true effect it will have on people’s lives is not considered. This debate will continue for a long time to come. I am by no means adverse to change but there must be a solution where combustion engines continue to become more efficient (look at a petrol and diesel cars emissions 10 years ago compared to now) EV’s and their infrastructure more accessible and other types of fuel, hydrogen and synthetic are developed. One size does not fit all and if we are to go fully electric where is all this electricity coming from? The future right now for travelling from A to B is frightening especially if it removes the independence my wife and I along with all those dependent on their vehicles currently have

    3. Pedro Antunes Avatar
      Pedro Antunes

      @Steve E why aren’t public chargers an option for you? How different are they from filling up a normal car?

    4. Steve E Avatar
      Steve E

      @Pedro Antunes I live in a rural area, the nearest charging station is at least half an hour away, yet my local fuel station is 5 mins away. Also due to my disability I don’t have the option to sit at a station for an hour to get full charge I’m afraid and this is my issue the infrastructure at present isn’t there, if it was then I’d have no problem in having an EV although currently they are unaffordable for me

    5. Richard Carter Avatar
      Richard Carter

      You make some very good points.

      There is a risk in the rush to Net Zero, a lot of our freedoms are lost. I hope the ban is delayed and then some commonsense is applied and we’re allowed a mix of EVs and more practical ICEs in future

  9. Steve Hall Avatar
    Steve Hall

    Nice balanced presentation of the situation. I think the date change was inevitable, but not sure it makes the new date any more certain. Manufacturers and consumers are all going to have to feel the pain of standing still if we are going to succeed in making the change happen

  10. Steve Ellis Avatar
    Steve Ellis

    Balance is the key to all things in life, an EV will suit some people, diesel others, petrol others and hydrogen or seaweed powered will be best for some, hybrids of all the above an option too. As a supposedly liberal country we should be trying to cater to the majority of people without resorting to crude bans. Edit: love the variety of content and the colabs/sister channels too

    1. who cares Avatar
      who cares

      Evs will suit some people, petrol and diesel is poisoning everyone

  11. Jon Larsen Avatar
    Jon Larsen

    Great video Ped, excellent discussion with solid talking points. Congratulations on being a full time you tuber! You’ve worked very hard these past 8 years and deserve all the success you’ve earned. I”m going to take my mini for a drive before I can’t get Petrol anymore! 😜

    1. Petrol Ped Avatar
      Petrol Ped

      Much appreciated!

  12. pril250 Avatar
    pril250

    I don’t think there is even one person in Government who has the knowledge, passion or understanding compared to us lot who are involved in ‘transportation’ and posses the capacity to logical thinking required and forward thinking in evaluating all the real life aspects there of in such a comprehensive way as for instance expressed here. Thanks.

    1. Petrol Ped Avatar
      Petrol Ped

      I agree 👍

  13. Mike Avatar
    Mike

    Thank you, love watching your videos! I think we also need to have a conversation on the amount of 20 mph zones that have been popping up all over the country in the last few years. I’m not claiming this is true, but from what I’ve heard the plan is to make cities completely car free. To me this is a scary prospect because: you can no longer take your toddler to a nursery of your choice, instead use must use the closest one. You can no longer take day-trips or go somewhere new because public transport is utter garbage (always overcrowded, late, and not accommodating for families) and will rarely get you where you want to go or get you there all the way. In fact it was rail strikes that finally pushed me to finally learn to drive and get a car. Without alternatives we’ll be at the mercy of overpaid, lazy and unhelpful people who can then demand an arbitrarily astronomical salary as there’s no choice.

    1. Dave Wrightson Avatar
      Dave Wrightson

      I’m currently on holiday in Canada, and it’s 30kmh / 20mph everywhere in the towns here. Honestly, whilst it feels ridiculously slow (especially in a big truck!) it does feel incredibly safe and everyone is much much more courteous than in the UK, with pedestrians having priority on all road crossings.

  14. Nick Webb Avatar
    Nick Webb

    A well balanced and informed chat there Pete. Concerning interest rates and car residuals it’s made me appreciate the excellent deal we have with our Hyundai Tucson self charging Hybrid we bought a few months ago. Am thinking it’s the next follow up vehicle we get that’s’s going to be the problem. May be a case of paying off the balloon payment and hanging on to it? Only time will tell but challenging times may well lie ahead.
    PS: looks like one of your dogs has springs on the end of its legs 😁

  15. David Keenan Avatar
    David Keenan

    Stoked to hear that you’re enjoying making youtube videos. I enjoyed this one – I think it’s important that we keep talking about future transport options.

  16. Garry Murphy Avatar
    Garry Murphy

    Totally agree with you and have been saying this myself for sometime. It was obvious that 2030 was not enough time to logistically integrate a complete change in the way we get ourselves around. I totally agree we need to do something but to put a time frame in place is simply delusional. For me some of the progressions made in hybrids are brilliant and for many people this would suffice. I live in the Cotswolds and a hybrid that I can charge at home for a daily is a really good option and for a majority of the time it would be running on electric rather than petrol but I then know that I’ve got the ice to cut in where necessary. So that’s easy for me but what about the millions of people that can’t charge at home? This is the problem! We need to be all working together to try and incentivise people to make the switch but there has to be solutions in place for everyone and there isn’t at the moment which is this transition has to be done gradually.

  17. Colton Cleveringa Avatar
    Colton Cleveringa

    Heck yeah a dog walk video! Thanks Sir Pete. This is definitely a conversation that’s needed. It just seems a set up for failure and tremendously painful for the average joe to try and follow this change. I’m not fully against ev but it has to make sense. And it has to be affordable. Last but not least older gas and diesel cars can’t be banned from the road. That’s a fear of mine. We have to be able to continue to enjoy are muscle tuner and exotic cars witch ice engines for lifetimes to come yet.

    Thank you for the update and congratulations on full time YouTube! You got this Sir Pete!!

  18. Darren Hughes Avatar
    Darren Hughes

    I totally agree with what you say. Current used car prices are still over inflated probably because of a carry on for the chip shortage, and now with interest rates very high; which as you mentioned the apr is double if not more than it was before ‘all this’ started. Making owning a newer car more of a luxury compared to a necessity that was. Lots of people are going out of bigger cars into smaller older ones. Also insurance backs this up too as again owners are coming out of their pcp or pch vehicle into an older car (probably bought outright) which their insurance is putting everyone else’s premium up. EV are only a temporary solution as the infrastructure is not there and probably won’t be. A hybrid solution with the use of hydrogen fuel or synthetic fuel for the
    Longer journey or farmers.

  19. Brian Griffiths Avatar
    Brian Griffiths

    I drive a small EV and charge at home but I am very aware that many people are not so fortunate, so I agree with much of what you say. I also believe that most modern cars (ICE and BEV) are far too powerful for our crowded roads, which is another story.

  20. Chris Clokey Avatar
    Chris Clokey

    I pretty much agree with everything you said, 100% we should be looking at all options for alternatives to petrol and diesel. Putting “all our eggs in one basket” is crazy.

    The benefits and kick backs associated with buying an EV were never going to last, and due to their cost convincing people to buy them used was always going to be a challenge.

    Used and new cars in general, I honestly cannot fathom who is buying them with the current interest rates. Similar to yourself, I have around 18 months left on my Porsche Boxster PCP, I would like to move into a Cayman GTS 4.0, but unless interest rates take a drop this is not going to happen. And I will probably pay the balloon and keep my Boxster.

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