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Proving Why New Tyres ALWAYS go on the REAR – Wet Braking and Handling | PART 2

Last August I made a video mentioning that brand-new tryres ought to always be placed on the back of a and truck when possible. Many of you asked the question about wet braking efficiency so with the help of UK I head back to to see if my suggestions still holds true!

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47 responses to “Proving Why New Tyres ALWAYS go on the REAR – Wet Braking and Handling | PART 2”

  1. @antonoat Avatar
    @antonoat

    Not many people are aware of this but it is well known in the tyre industry! Understeer is easier to manage than oversteer. Great film Pete. They look like Michelin Cross Climate 2 tyres which are really excellent in multiple conditions, I have them on my daily.

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    1. @markthoughtswithukrainemas2072 Avatar
      @markthoughtswithukrainemas2072

      Your a very bright one , did you spend hours googling that , or like me knew it from age 12 years old ,, ( Id say bright spark spent 4 hours finding that one out )

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    2. @antonoat Avatar
      @antonoat

      @@markthoughtswithukrainemas2072 You’re a very bright one too, though your grammar could use some work! Lol.

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    3. @robertallardice8119 Avatar
      @robertallardice8119

      @@markthoughtswithukrainemas2072 Cheeky James Hunt!

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  2. @getnyrb Avatar
    @getnyrb

    What a great test. Been driving since 79 with mostly front wheel drive cars. I always put new on the front…not anymore.

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Great to hear 👍

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  3. @garrymatthews4430 Avatar
    @garrymatthews4430

    Great one Pete as always. So informative and I think demonstrated how important it is to major on handerling not just breaking

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Glad you enjoyed it 👍

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  4. @solentbum Avatar
    @solentbum

    This is as I was taught in advanced driving schools 30 years ago. Always new on the back. Thanks for reminding us.

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Glad to help 👍

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    2. @jamest5149 Avatar
      @jamest5149

      The difference between knowledge and myth. Knowledge comes from experience and training… I added training because your experience might be limited so you need that extra bit of knowledge from training

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    3. @VK6AB- Avatar
      @VK6AB-

      You are both ignorant and ill informed. You replace all four tires at the same time. You are not qualified to provide this level of incompetent advice. Just beggars belief.

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    4. @solentbum Avatar
      @solentbum

      @ Thank you for you considered advice. I presume that if you have serious damage to one tyre in set of four part worn but otherwise servicable tyres you would follow your advice and replace all four .

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    5. @DontPanicDear Avatar
      @DontPanicDear

      @@VK6AB- 😂😂😂

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  5. @NBMBC40 Avatar
    @NBMBC40

    Greatr video and a real eye opener, changed my thoughts on where the new tyres should go.

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Great to hear 👍

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  6. @greenyrog Avatar
    @greenyrog

    My take from this is keep your speed down on wet roads, part of the skill in driving is to assess the road ahead and drive accordingly

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    1. @johniooi3954 Avatar
      @johniooi3954

      Sensible. But as we know to many that is out of the window when behind the wheel.

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    2. @pauldarlington9157 Avatar
      @pauldarlington9157

      @@johniooi3954agreed but you may need to brake in an emergency at any speed in a corner

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  7. @sfjneanrirjlkdfvwliejferjlncv Avatar
    @sfjneanrirjlkdfvwliejferjlncv

    Interesting, at first counterintuitive but if you think about it it does make sense. The back wants to come round, which is essentially the car trying to reconfigure itself in its stable configuration with the grip on the rear, *backwards*.

    I do wonder how this is different on a motorcycle. A bit of front wheel slidey action in a car is not a massive problem as demonstrated, but the front wheel sliding on a bike is a somewhat different proposition and tends to get gravity involved. I suspect the answer is “it depends”. A little tail end slip is unsettling but easy enough to catch but a lot of tail end slip can end up in a highsider and those are definitely worse than going down front first.

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  8. @rickyard11 Avatar
    @rickyard11

    Had a rear puncture 2 weeks ago and decided to replace both rear tyres. The garage said I should put the new tyres on the front and the part worn tyres on the back. Having watched your first video I said thanks but no thanks. I suggested that they watch your video before asking future customers the same question.
    This second video confirms this.
    Thanks Pete.

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Thanks 🙏🏻

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    2. @DontPanicDear Avatar
      @DontPanicDear

      @@rickyard11
      In my experience (3 decades) the last place to expect anyone to know anything about tyres, is a tyre retailer / fitter.
      It’s REALLY rare to find any exceptions, sadly 😮

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  9. @TheAndythomnz Avatar
    @TheAndythomnz

    Great video. I’ve been of this belief for a good few years now. It makes sense when you understand traction circles and realise that when the average driver accidentally reaches the limits of traction on a public road, they’re likely not doing so in a straight line.
    Unfortunately I often find that tyre shops/fitters are still eager to fit new tyres on the front axle. I always make sure to spell it out that I want the new ones rotated to the rear – sometimes that generates a funny look and one occasion they tried to convince me otherwise (I left and spent my money elsewhere).

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      👍

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  10. @paulwoods4094 Avatar
    @paulwoods4094

    Great video, I always put new tyres on the rear, and have been challenged by tyre workshops on my choice when I then request moving the part worn ones up to the front. Then of course they counter it by trying to get me to swap all 4 tyres!

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      I bet they do 😂

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  11. @royd63uk Avatar
    @royd63uk

    We need more videos like this

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Will do my best 👍

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  12. @Paul-od9iz Avatar
    @Paul-od9iz

    I due to new tyres in the front, now it made me think twice, what a interesting you tube, well done ped

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Glad you enjoyed it 👍

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  13. @ianfranks3571 Avatar
    @ianfranks3571

    This is fascinating Ped. If this is a known fact, why don’t companies do it automatically? I would just say that personally, as someone who changes cars every three years, I have only ever replaced front tyres, but with all of my (front-wheel drive) cars the rears have never got even to 3mm.

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    1. @robertallardice8119 Avatar
      @robertallardice8119

      Have you been to Kwik Fit!😩😱!

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  14. @robbijay Avatar
    @robbijay

    I can’t believe the amount of people who didn’t know this anyway and were arguing after the first video so that you felt the need to make a second!!

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Lots of misinformation out there sadly 😢

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  15. @dangreasley7934 Avatar
    @dangreasley7934

    Fascinating Pedro. A great video with conclusive evidence… One to remember going forward… and stopping safely.

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Absolutely 🙏🏻

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  16. @geralddavison Avatar
    @geralddavison

    Done this for forty years. I can’t remember who explained it to me originally.

    But old cars had less driver aids and handling snap oversteer was an even bigger problem and you REALLY wanted to avoid it.

    In a front drive car you obviously tend to wear the fronts out first….. so when I need to swap them I always get the Tyre fitters to move the rears to the front and the new pair go on the back.

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      👍

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  17. @whos-your-mate Avatar
    @whos-your-mate

    That was brilliant, good job.
    Next time I replace a pair of tyres, the new ones will be going on the back 👍

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Great to hear 👍

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  18. @nickwebb9290 Avatar
    @nickwebb9290

    These two demonstrations have been quite an eye opener Pete. In my 57 years of driving I’ve always believed, yes you guessed it, new tyres on the front was best practice. Makes you wonder how and why this was always ‘the done thing’ when having replacements fitted.
    Well we know now, many thanks for these two very informative videos 🙏

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Glad you enjoyed it 👍

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  19. @mikeadams6818 Avatar
    @mikeadams6818

    Excellent Part 2 Peter. Thank you for two very interesting videos about tyres and where they should be fitted. I will share with our IAM RoadSmart group (P&DAM 1134). Keep up the great work.

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      That would be great. Many thanks 🙏🏻

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  20. @c.c.5472 Avatar
    @c.c.5472

    The new tires on the rear, was what I have always known and been told by tire shops, but never really comprehended. Now I do. Well done. Cheers.

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    1. @PetrolPed Avatar
      @PetrolPed

      Glad to help!

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