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Kilowatt Half Hour Ep 50: Motor shows are back, and so is the Twingo ! | Electrifying.com

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This week, Ginny and Vicky discuss What to Anticipate from Paris Motorshow, The rebirth of the Twingo and our driving impressions of the Vauxhall .

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24 responses to “Kilowatt Half Hour Ep 50: Motor shows are back, and so is the Twingo ! | Electrifying.com”

  1. @ianrob4760 Avatar
    @ianrob4760

    Still awaiting your full R5 review 🙂

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  2. @J500ANT Avatar
    @J500ANT

    The BYD Seal U is a plug in hybrid and I think they’re advertising a 600mi+ combined range.

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    1. @BMWHP2 Avatar
      @BMWHP2

      The BYD Seal U in the Netherlands is full EV. You could probably get a hybrid, but than you wont get subsidies.

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  3. @garywilde6171 Avatar
    @garywilde6171

    Regarding Road Tax: Worth mentioning that cars registered before 2017 will be cheaper to tax.
    From gov website:
    “Electric and low emission cars registered between 1 March 2001 and 31 March 2017
    These vehicles will move to the first band that has a VED value. This is £20 for 2024 but is subject to change for 2025.”

    Regarding 1000km range, looks like the new Tesla Model Y Juniper will have over 800km range, so not far off.

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  4. @AliraValesquez Avatar
    @AliraValesquez

    Thanks for the breakdown! I have a quick question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). Could you explain how to move them to Binance?

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  5. @KennethPaul Avatar
    @KennethPaul

    Thanks for clarifying the tax rules. I keep telling people about it but it’s so convoluted and difficult for people to grasp. No, £40k is far too low considering how much all cars cost these days that needs increased to £60k I reckon

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  6. @anonymouspdg6121 Avatar
    @anonymouspdg6121

    Enjoyable as usual.
    The car tax changes coming in April are a real slap in the face for those wanting to move to an EV or swapping cars.

    Yes, there are more cars now starting at the low / mid £30k mark but as soon as you add any extras or move to one of the higher spa models, bang your over £40k.

    Unfortunately BEVs are inherently more expensive to manufacture so this seems to be the chancellor grabbing an opportunity that is an incredibly soft target with no chance for the majority of drivers to avoid the increased charges.

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    1. @Hell-Hound1 Avatar
      @Hell-Hound1

      i don’t have a problem with RFL being applied to EVs per say. However the £40k luxury tax is completely ridiculous. If there needs to be a luxury tax applied then why not have it on a sliding scale. £40k+£50, and add another £50 for every £10k car price over that.

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    2. @johnnodge4327 Avatar
      @johnnodge4327

      BEVs shouldn’t be more expensive to manufacture compared to an equivalent ICE, but are currently seen as the latest “must have”, so manufacturer’s have been charging a premium for them. This looks to be changing at last, thankfully.

      As for tax on a BEV, I’ve no issues with paying something, but I do think the minimum cost is too high, and the threshold for the luxury tax rate is just silly. This was introduced about a decade ago, when cars were in general considerably cheaper than they are today.

      The threshold of the luxury car tax should be increased to £50k at least, to reflect the increased cost of cars today, however the government won’t be doing that, as it’s not in their favour.

      However an EV if home charging, is so much cheaper to fuel compared to an equivalent ICE, the cost of ownership is still much less than ICE.

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    3. @anonymouspdg6121 Avatar
      @anonymouspdg6121

      To be honest, the whole topic of car tax is ridiculous as the concept is outdated and bears no relationship to money spent on the road network. All the money collected just goes into the treasury coffers along with all other taxes and is then distributed as the Government sees fit.
      Although not something I would look forward to, a flat rate tax per car would be much fairer or a mileage rate.. 🤑

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  7. @nealy2815 Avatar
    @nealy2815

    I saw a recent comparison video of new Renault Scenic v Peugeot e 3008. No mention of the new Stellantis warranty which should blow the Renault out of the water? Was this warranty implemented??

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  8. @BMWHP2 Avatar
    @BMWHP2

    Thanks folks, for the KHH with the streeam of EV info. Thanks for stopping that “city car” thing.
    Since 2000 we had several Smart FotTwo cars. The current one is a Cabrio ForTwo Brabus version. From the Netherlands we do trips to Austria and Italy with it.
    Never understood why people would say it is a “citycar”, when we never use it in cities. To the city, like Amsterdam, we take the bus.

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  9. @WagnerGimenes Avatar
    @WagnerGimenes

    Please, no need to apologise for the dog noises. They shouldn’t bother anyone. It proves you are humans, not robots. 😍😍😍😍😍😍

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  10. @RobVerleg-mf9hx Avatar
    @RobVerleg-mf9hx

    Thanks again for this podcast 🎉

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  11. @kjlovescoffee Avatar
    @kjlovescoffee

    34:55 I heartily agree. My mother drove two 6ft teenagers and two dogs (a German Shepherd and a Labrador) around in a Renault 4, then a Renault 5, and later a Golf MK1. It does my head in when I hear people say they need to buy something like a Rav4 because they’re expecting their first baby. To be fair, the child seats required today do take up more space than what was available when I was a kid, but my entry-level Hyundai hatchback has ISOFIX points and more than enough room for a child seat. And it’s not even a spacious EV.

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  12. @CoxJul Avatar
    @CoxJul

    I expect a number of manufacturers to revisit their list prices before next April. Unless you want an standard Orange Kia EV3 GT-Line (£39,495), a standard colour Smart #3 (£39,950) or the new Skoda Elroq 85 with either the heat-pump or a different colour to the Electric blue (just under £40k) but not both you’ll be nudging over the £40k threshold. This means you’ll be paying an extra £2k tax (years 2-6) on that now very expensive option!

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  13. @sIightIybored Avatar
    @sIightIybored

    I’ve seen that people pretty much buy EV’s based on range. so after that, they find one they can afford and fit a pram in the boot. SUV is what there is, so it’s what they buy.

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  14. @PaulMeier-cu3ds Avatar
    @PaulMeier-cu3ds

    As ever I enjoyed KHH and there is nothing quite like it covering this material.

    I hope at some point you will cover Tom’s story about Nissan and partners doing proper plug and play V2G Nissans for households. Writing as someone who already has battery storage for my home renewables, having my car as another source of electrical storage in extremis is really attractive and enough to make me switch car brands. Looking at Nissan, a car from somewhere within their Ariya range is already pretty good. What is sad is that it appears this will not be available until 2026 by which time I think battery technology will be changing rapidly and the cost of investing in large present technology car batteries unattractive.

    The big point is that large scale battery storage at home in V2G will solve quite a lot of the grid’s issues with lec demand management, so big story.

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  15. @Afrikashoxx Avatar
    @Afrikashoxx

    During episode 49 I noticed a strange skull design on your jumper Ginny. Very interesting.

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  16. @lm3718 Avatar
    @lm3718

    Thanks for the upgrade in backdrops and video quality – it is appreciated.

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  17. @Jaw0lf Avatar
    @Jaw0lf

    On the City Car moniker, to me it seems to be used to describe EV’s with low range that they say can not do a long range. We need to show that many of the EV’s can do long range trips. I saw a Channel 5 petrol v EV program and they decided as the first test they would attempt a 100 mile trip, but limited charge and fuel tank to a quarter or thereabouts, such that the EV would need to charge. Wheras the 500 mile range petrol car still had over 100 miles range. As reviewers of EV the same can be done when they are talked of as good run arounds. In reality anything with a near 200 mile range can travel cross country with stops after 3 hours.

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  18. @markcornwall8132 Avatar
    @markcornwall8132

    On the topic of EV car tax from next year I know our used Model 3 will be £190, but have had no luck trying to find out how much our Twizy quadracycle will be, can you get one of your bods to find out please? Thanks.

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  19. @davelenderson Avatar
    @davelenderson

    How often thos goes over the 30 min mark you should just call it the kwh!

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  20. @jonevansauthor Avatar
    @jonevansauthor

    People used to say my Smart ForTwo was a ‘city car’ and what they meant was, you can only use it in a city. They literally thought I wasn’t legally allowed to drive it on a motorway, or that I should be an abject coward and afraid to do so. Lots of people claim to be afraid to drive small cars on motorways. I questions whether they are a) British because they have no stiff upper lip and b) should be driving at all if they’re genuinely that afraid of it. But no, I never had any problem driving it for hundreds of miles along the motorway, other than the sheer boredom of any drive that long. Now, are they ideal for densely packed European cities? Yes, absolutely but people hear ‘city car’ and think that’s the only place they’re useful.

    I think if you said, ‘this is in the size class we call city cars, but I want to say this is fine on the motorway’ or for an Ami ‘this is a quadricycle, and that means comparing it to a car is the same as comparing a moped or an e-bike to a car, but it is very much like a car’. I absolutely see the value in saying if an L6e light quadricycle has a limited speed of 28mph meaning you can’t take it on some roads, and if it’s an L7e going up to 56mph, which roads can you take it, because people need to understand that they’re a whole new class of vehicle. I think everyone who is worth listening too, would love to see more quadricycles on our roads, and it’d be helpful if people began to understand them. Lots of reviewers do call them ‘cars’ but that just leads to them being judged as if they are car – why doesn’t it have these car features such as range and airbags? Well… why don’t your legs or your microwave have those car features? Maybe because they’re not cars either? 😉

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