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ELECTRIC vs PETROL CAR – which is REALLY cheaper?? Hyundai Ioniq 5 vs Hyundai Tucson | What Car?

Is a journey in an electric cars and truck absolutely less expensive than a gas one? We drive 200 miles in 2 SUVs to learn

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62 responses to “ELECTRIC vs PETROL CAR – which is REALLY cheaper?? Hyundai Ioniq 5 vs Hyundai Tucson | What Car?”

  1. @hydraflyer Avatar
    @hydraflyer

    Electric if you can charge at home. This would cost me £3.50. if you cannot charge at home don’t buy an EV, simple

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    1. @spsmith45 Avatar
      @spsmith45

      Not quite so simple. We charge at the local supermarket and are happy to run an EV because it is cleaner and emits much less CO2 through its life cycle.

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    2. @JamsieYT Avatar
      @JamsieYT

      Pretty much this. If you are reliant on public charging then it’s really not that much cheaper. Home charging, with off peak charging is muuuuch cheaper.

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    3. @hydraflyer Avatar
      @hydraflyer

      ​@@spsmith45Supermarkets are too slow on 11 KW AC, unless you use a 300 KW at Sainsbury’s but then it is a ridiculous amount. Also, you have to sit and wait for it to charge. I plug in at home, sleep and it’s charged for super cheap. I just don’t see the benefit in doing EV if you can’t charge at home, better off with an efficient petrol from Toyota

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    4. @spsmith45 Avatar
      @spsmith45

      @@hydraflyerThe benefit is for the environment.

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    5. @davisonaghinor1218 Avatar
      @davisonaghinor1218

      ​@@spsmith45 have you considered the emission it makes during production of the battery? A petrol car won’t make such emissions in it’s life time.

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  2. @keyserxx Avatar
    @keyserxx

    I always charge my Kona at Tesla at 31p per kw. My mate charges his Tesla on an overnight tariff at 7p per kw.

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    1. @FirstLast-rh9jw Avatar
      @FirstLast-rh9jw

      40+ pence in most places. 50+p if you want to avoid middle of night times…

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    2. @tobycolin6271 Avatar
      @tobycolin6271

      The overnight tariff will come with a higher standing charge and day rate. On most tariffs you have to charge over 7000 miles a year to break even on your electricity bill. If you charge less than 7000 miles then you might be better off on a normal tariff.

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  3. @zilspeed Avatar
    @zilspeed

    Thanks for showing the other scenarios.
    The home charging on off peak would be my reality.

    Long trips once in a blue moon at public rates really aren’t a concern when the rest of your motoring is so cheap for the fuel.

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    1. @steveknight878 Avatar
      @steveknight878

      Indeed. This last year I saved about £1500 to £1800 in fuel costs compared with my previous Diesel car. And no, my insurance was no more expensive than for the Diesel. My yearly service (a major service) cost about one third my average yearly service for the Diesel.

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  4. @sargfowler9603 Avatar
    @sargfowler9603

    With an EV, most people charge at home for as little as 5p per kwh. I certainly do.
    95% of my journeys are local so it costs me very little to run the car.
    However, on longer journeys I know that charging is expensive and the best price you’ll get is on par with petrol.
    But if you don’t make too many long journeys, an EV is still a cheap way of motoring!
    Don’t buy one if you can’t charge at home! You might think you’re “saving the planet” but you’re not really.

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    1. @steveknight878 Avatar
      @steveknight878

      And if you are worried about the cost of charging your EV on a long holiday then hire an ICE car – and get one that is, perhaps, more suitable for that holiday than whatever your daily drive car is. You will still have saved a huge amount of money with your EV.

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    2. @chrishart8548 Avatar
      @chrishart8548

      If I go away in the EV I will charge to 100% before leaving. Charge for free at where I’m staying and try to return home with as little charge possible. Public chargers would be my last resort and even then I would only charge enough to reach somewhere cheaper to charge.

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    3. @RandomNoob Avatar
      @RandomNoob

      If you can charge at home you set off at 100%, so a large part of the trip is at the cheaper rate, if you do need to public charge you probably don’t need to do a 100% charge unless you are on a really long trip, in which case you just put in what’s needed, we went away last weekend, total trip was about 280 mile, I stopped and charged for 5 minutes while we went to the toilet, got straight back in and went home, got back at 11%

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    4. @chrishart8548 Avatar
      @chrishart8548

      ​@@RandomNoob sounds absolutely perfect. I’ve had my EV 16 months. 30k miles

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    5. @Ben-gm9lo Avatar
      @Ben-gm9lo

      You are bang on the money. Most people would never run their EV on public chargers alone, so the initial cost comparison was pretty pointless.
      Over 60% of UK residents have a driveway (source: Everything Electric channel). Almost all of these can thus fit a home charger, so the time and cost of charging away from home disappears as it happens at 7p and overnight.
      They should have started with the ‘charge at home’ costs, then gone to the away from home costs which are more of an edge case for most EV drivers.

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  5. @brianiswrong Avatar
    @brianiswrong

    Makes more sense if you crunch the number more carefully.
    The petrol car needed pricing at supermarket fuel prices and at motorway fuel prices to give an ultate high and low price.
    The ev needs costing at a public charger, a regular price home charger and then an overnight ” economy 7′ low cost electric.
    This would give
    1) the higest cost to refuel each car
    2) the lowest cost to fuel both cars
    3) the cost to charge an ev with a home charger but normal electricity price (as we do)
    Then the decisions can be made transparently.

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    1. @stop_lying_bro Avatar
      @stop_lying_bro

      Ive said this many times. It’s as if they lack actually understanding of what it’s actually like to own a EV. Especially with the 100% highway tests.

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    2. @FirstLast-rh9jw Avatar
      @FirstLast-rh9jw

      You obviously didn’t watch it.

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  6. @ISuperTed Avatar
    @ISuperTed

    All you needed to do is say Public Charging is a rip-off in many cases. Every other part of the video is a bit pointless. There’s no answer with EV’s – it all depends where you charge, so you can’t declare a winner whatever you try. It really does depend completely on circumstances.

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    1. @henryviiifake8244 Avatar
      @henryviiifake8244

      There is an answer with EVs… but you simply won’t find it in our infrastructure!

      Eg. If we take Norway as an example, they invested a lot of their oil money into developing hydroelectric power. The result is that, despite the cold sapping range like crazy, Norwegians have access to renewable, low-cost electricity, which has contributed to EVs being very popular for domestic purposes (heavy industrial machines would still use diesel, for example), in spite of the environmental challenges.

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  7. @Bawdale Avatar
    @Bawdale

    In 2024 I did 17480 miles in my ev and it cost me £339 on my home charger and £480 using public chargers. No brainer for me.

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    1. @JamesSmith-qs4hx Avatar
      @JamesSmith-qs4hx

      You haven’t factored in the eyewatering depreciation.😲

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    2. @Mleko147 Avatar
      @Mleko147

      ​@@JamesSmith-qs4hx just buy used. I was able to get 2020 Model 3 LR was about 40% of it’s original price late last year. It’s serving us very well.

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    3. @Mleko147 Avatar
      @Mleko147

      ​​@@JamesSmith-qs4hxwhy would he factore it in if he did not sell his car yet? You will get similar depreciation with BMW, Audi, Mercedes with that horsepower.

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    4. @jondonnelly3 Avatar
      @jondonnelly3

      @@Mleko147 what happens when you need a new battery?

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    5. @mgeorgeukyt Avatar
      @mgeorgeukyt

      ​@@jondonnelly3You kick yourself for buying a hybrid, or if it’s your ev you say thank goodness it’s done 150-200k miles already and I can still use or sell it for static energy storage (and I didn’t have to spend even more on head gasket, altenator, catalytic converter, belts etc over the same period)😅

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  8. @rberridge69 Avatar
    @rberridge69

    This ‘electric v petrol’ has become a rather tired meme.

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    1. @patrickoconnor5494 Avatar
      @patrickoconnor5494

      Yep

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    2. @jondonnelly3 Avatar
      @jondonnelly3

      it’s no meme and won’t go away until most people drive electric.

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    3. @peterscott2662 Avatar
      @peterscott2662

      Also I could tell the answer before they even started. They didn’t need to drive anywhere to check the price of public charging. You don’t public charge unless you have to.

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    4. @markgt894 Avatar
      @markgt894

      Those who jumped into an EV were gullible and bought into all the marketing. Forgetting the high prices of public chargers, an EV is more expensive to buy and genrally depreciates quicker than petrol/hybrid equivalent.

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    5. @simplygregsterev Avatar
      @simplygregsterev

      @@markgt894I am lucky enough to charge at home

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  9. @mentepazzza Avatar
    @mentepazzza

    The Hybrid is 212hp vs 325hp of the EV. Journalists should start comparing Apples for Apples.
    Compare petrol hybrid with the same power to EV, fuel cost will be same or worst. If you charge your ev at home, 60kwh is 7.5p with octopus. Less than 5 quid for 200 miles.

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    1. @bordersw1239 Avatar
      @bordersw1239

      The EV weighs much more than the ICE and is just 1 second faster 0-60.

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    2. @FirstLast-rh9jw Avatar
      @FirstLast-rh9jw

      OK, compare weight, and top speed. Ps ev shills never say how long an EV can travel at quoted top speed, it’s usually only a, few mins before overheating or the battery drains.

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    3. @user-sf5bt8eb4y Avatar
      @user-sf5bt8eb4y

      ok bring in an EV that can do the same range as the petrol car to compare and we can talk

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  10. @markgeezey1809 Avatar
    @markgeezey1809

    The scenario here is public charging is way too expensive. But if you have a Hyundai/Kia brand you get a big discount on high powered charging and especially via Ionity. So most users of new cars get discounts on public charging . This you haven’t taken into account. But costs for public chargers need to come down.

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    1. @ianrob4760 Avatar
      @ianrob4760

      And they will … IONITY with a few lan for very little is good value and of course Tesla though they have increased and others do deals

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    2. @FirstLast-rh9jw Avatar
      @FirstLast-rh9jw

      I think it’s about an hour’s drive for the nearest ionity charger for me in se London.

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    3. @markgeezey1809 Avatar
      @markgeezey1809

      But surely you would charge at home? An hours drive plus would only be applicable if doing a long journey. Then to find an Ionity and others isn’t a big problem. Realistically unless you are travelling up and down the country for your job, then most people who have EV’s would only use high powered chargers on the occasional long journey where they have been travelling over 250miles. Plus many of the charging companies offer a monthly subscription and reduced cost. So that covers people travelling long journeys for work.
      This always happens with these guys and their comparisons. I like the channel, but they always look at worse case scenarios and not actually what most people would do. Same thing with comparing EV’s with ICE. They never compare an equivalent power ICE car against an EV. We all know that powerful ICE cars are not fuel efficient either. Just watch Petrol Ped and his Porsche Macan GTS. He is getting high teens/very low 20’s MPG on his car and it only has slightly quicker performance than the Ioniq5 dual motor and similar size cars.

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  11. @joaoricardovasilva Avatar
    @joaoricardovasilva

    Not a very fair comparison – it’s not an electric against a combustion vehicle. Because you were driving a full hybrid with an electric motor – against a full electric. What’s the point of this race then, if a real combustion car wasn’t put up to the test?

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    1. @michaelmcnally2331 Avatar
      @michaelmcnally2331

      Full Hybrids are deemed to be ICE. Come 2035 and the EV mandate then unless there are changes Full Hybrids as new cars will not be available. Seems real combustion to me.

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    2. @FirstLast-rh9jw Avatar
      @FirstLast-rh9jw

      Hybrids are, pretty much the default car these, days. Private EV Sales really don’t exist. Pre reg is rampant for manufacturers. They’ve effectively killed Jaguar, doing the same to Volvo and others.

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    3. @skipskops Avatar
      @skipskops

      I guess because if you’re buying new, your options are likely Hybrid or eletric.

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  12. @encodersofia Avatar
    @encodersofia

    The vast majority of people, who made the transition to EV, say they will never go back to internal combustion. So, there is something more that cost alone

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    1. @yo2trader539 Avatar
      @yo2trader539

      Actually, there are many Chinese customers who are switching from BEVs to Plug-in Hybrids for practical reasons. As such, the growth rate of Plug-in Hybrids in China is much more faster than that of pure BEVs.

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    2. @FirstLast-rh9jw Avatar
      @FirstLast-rh9jw

      McKinsey: 46% of U.S. EV owners want to switch to ICE vehicles. Forty-six percent of current electric vehicle (EV) owners in the United States told McKinsey & Co. they would likely switch back to an internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle during the firm’s 2024 Mobility Consumer Global Survey.17 Jun 2024

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    3. @encodersofia Avatar
      @encodersofia

      @@FirstLast-rh9jw If the average commuting distance is higher than Europe, then it’s likely they have to charge too often and it becomes annoying

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    4. @harmbron1794 Avatar
      @harmbron1794

      Yes, it’s called a conscience!

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  13. @raakkyanabayan7487 Avatar
    @raakkyanabayan7487

    Doug and will
    Great job mates.
    Clear explanations 😊
    Keep it up 👍

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  14. @oceanthirteen1628 Avatar
    @oceanthirteen1628

    I’m sure there are pros and cons with either platforms. The only thing that matters is people should have the right to choose and not be forced to get into EVs!

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  15. @osm6435 Avatar
    @osm6435

    Loving the video quality of recent postings by the way. Feels like you’re there (viewed on my 4K TV). Really noticeable.

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  16. @josephhamilton-black1739 Avatar
    @josephhamilton-black1739

    Would’ve been interesting to see how a diesel would have performed in this test in comparison to the petrol and electric. As good as electric cars may be, they’re no use for what I’d need it for and there isn’t necesssarily the infrastructure to charge them where I live and at most places I travel to for work etc.

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  17. @colonelcabbage Avatar
    @colonelcabbage

    Probably worth noting that this was almost entirely motorway driving which is peak efficiency for ICE vehicles and worst case for EVs

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    1. @alfamonk Avatar
      @alfamonk

      not so with the Tucson – economy is much better at lower speeds than motorway.

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    2. @MrStateofplay Avatar
      @MrStateofplay

      So EVs are no good on the motorway?

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    3. @alfamonk Avatar
      @alfamonk

      @@MrStateofplay both…tucson drops to 30mpg on motorways above 70mph

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  18. @rtfazeberdee3519 Avatar
    @rtfazeberdee3519

    Considering 95% of journeys are short, around town type journeys, you should be testing in those conditions. Plus you should be comparing vehicles of similar performance.

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  19. @tomassimoniutis2687 Avatar
    @tomassimoniutis2687

    Even if you can charge at home for night tariffs it is only 4-5 hours of cheap rates, with a speed of ±7kWh.
    Then don’t forget to add an EV socket installation bill which is ± 1000£ for the first year.

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  20. @bassdakro969 Avatar
    @bassdakro969

    You said that people can charge their car at home in order to save money. However, the problem is that a lot of people live in a flat, which makes it almost impossible to charge it at home.

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