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Video Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:30 Background
01:15 The test
01:54 Vehicle setup
04:00 Specific results
09:28 Outcomes table
10:03 Outro

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42 responses to “Electric car winter ranges REVEALED! | What Car?”

  1. TL Avatar
    TL

    My EV also exhibits the same shortfall in winter. Having driven one for the past 3 years, I am now totally convinced that full EVs is not the answer to our quest for zero emissions. We do need to reset our thinking about EVs and delay the ban on ICE cars by at least 10 years for new and better technology to be developed. In addition, the UK simply do not have the proper electricity infrastructure and the national grid is seriously deficient too.

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    1. joeyat Avatar
      joeyat

      Driven EVs for 6 years, two leafs and a Kia Niro. They work fine in the winter. I can drive the Kia for well over 200 miles in the winter no problem. That’s 4+ hours of driving between stops. Plenty. The lower capacity leafs are a thing of the past and I never had an issue doing a few more stops with those.

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    2. Dave Fitzpatrick Avatar
      Dave Fitzpatrick

      The national grid have stated they can cope, from the 1970s how did we cope with TVs in every room, computers, mobile phones ,dish washers etc all with a increase in population ?? In reality you’re talking about another 10+ years before we see the majority of cars being electric .
      10 years ago there was only really Tesla making a car that could go more than a 100 miles, now there were plenty in this test that even in winter can do 250+ miles ( more than enough for the majority) so in ten years its easy to see 400-500 mile cars with faster charging times will be available.
      My main issue is the charging infrastructure needs to improve, Tesla have proved it can be done .

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    3. joeyat Avatar
      joeyat

      @Dave Fitzpatrick indeed. What about all those hundreds of thousands of 300-400 watt sodium vapour street lights on every street and road in the country, that were replaced by LEDs a few years back. They used to draw an enormous amount of electricity and they all came on at pretty much the same time.

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    4. Ben Royals Avatar
      Ben Royals

      I think we need to remember that 2030 is only a ban on new full ICE vehicles, Hydrides will still be on sale till 2035 and then you have a used market after that.

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    5. TL Avatar
      TL

      @Dave Fitzpatrick The National Grid could not even deliver the electricity generated from the offshore windfarms in Scotland down to southern England where there is an acute shortage in winter. As a result the government is spending I believe £500mils annually to pay the generators for the energy that were either produced, not delivered or to shut down the wind turbines for the best part of winter (in Scotland)! So, is National Grid so confident they can deliver? They have not added any new infrastructure for at least the last 10 years, just renewing or replacing existing capacity.

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  2. BBar Avatar
    BBar

    You should do another test with the polestar 2, tesla model 3, vw id4, audi q4, volvo xc 40, skoda enyaq and mercedes eqa.

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  3. Luke H Avatar
    Luke H

    very interesting review thanks 👍👌

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    1. What Car? Avatar
      What Car?

      We are glad you enjoyed!

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  4. Alex Christy Avatar
    Alex Christy

    The absence of cheaper cars like the LEAF and Zoe from this test, (that can be bought for nearly half the price of the Model Y) is a shame. Including the Corsa/208 would have been useful too. £35k+ for a car is not an option for many people.

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    1. Michael Avatar
      Michael

      Good point, I drive a e208 and the difference in range from summer to winter is noticeable. In the summer I could achieve 200 miles consistently, at the moment I do well to get 130 to 140 out of a full charge

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  5. Nabeel majeed Avatar
    Nabeel majeed

    Electric car winter ranges are electric cars, it means that like in Canada 🇨🇦 it’s too long the batteries can charge so even during the cold.

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    1. TL Avatar
      TL

      You should not fast charge the batteries when it is -10C or lower as it can permanently damage the batteries! Slow charge when inside a garage is the best policy.

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    2. Nabeel majeed Avatar
      Nabeel majeed

      @TL that means there will be electric cars in Canada.

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  6. NJS Avatar
    NJS

    Was the car in front changed so each car had turn in front. Otherwise you’ll get one car breaking the air, and the rest slipstreaming..

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    1. What Car? Avatar
      What Car?

      The order of the cars rotated after each 14.6 mile lap, keeping the test fair.

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  7. zerocool801 Avatar
    zerocool801

    The Mini just proves that having a small car is the way to go for efficiency whether for electric or ICE.

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    1. Ben Royals Avatar
      Ben Royals

      be interesting to see when the new 40 kwh and 50 kwh models are released what winter range they get.

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    2. Michael Avatar
      Michael

      @Ben Royals be interesting as the batteries will probably have a bit more weight than before 🤔

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    3. Ben Royals Avatar
      Ben Royals

      @Michael they will but it’s also being built as an EV from the start as appose to a electrified ICE car and I’m pretty sure mini said these new models are slightly shorter and the 40 kwh being lighter

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  8. Ben Royals Avatar
    Ben Royals

    Not shocked at all, I have the Mini Electric and its brilliant fun to drive as well as being super efficient

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  9. David Knollman Avatar
    David Knollman

    Again, Tesla tops the charts. I’ve always said they are 5 years ahead of the rest in terms of battery tech and infotainment.

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    1. Ben Royals Avatar
      Ben Royals

      except in efficiency, looks and build quality

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    2. James Avatar
      James

      ​@Ben Royalsand interior quality

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    3. Ben Royals Avatar
      Ben Royals

      @James Interior and exterior. I mean their handover experience is literally heres you unlock card now off you go to find your car somewhere out there oh and if you find anything wrong come and find us and we shall see if we can fix it maybe.

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    4. James Avatar
      James

      @Ben Royals yes I don’t doubt you on that

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  10. cnocspeireag Avatar
    cnocspeireag

    Thank you for such an informative comparison. I would be interested in knowing how much energy was used in heating the car to what seems an extravagant 21C. Was I to need to extend my range, I would be happy to put on warmer clothes and limit the temperature to sixteen or less. Would that make much difference? I rarely set the temperature in my ICE car at 21C in the winter. How about a comparison using the same car with different heating modes, if it would make a significant difference?

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    1. Ben Royals Avatar
      Ben Royals

      Its strange they chose to turn off heated seats as that uses way less energy than the cars heater system. Heat the driver not the cabin mentality.

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    2. Ben Cole Avatar
      Ben Cole

      Remember, the actual temperature want 21°, but 19.5. I agree, in those cars with heated seats, using them would have provided a more realistic, informative test. However, probably harder to compare accurately across cars.

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  11. Ben Cole Avatar
    Ben Cole

    Everybody will want their own car included, but I do think it’s a shame you included two Méganes, but only the long range MG. With the short range model hosting a different battery chemistry, it’s results would likely have been quite different.

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    1. TsLeng Avatar
      TsLeng

      I like the smaller battery MG4. It’s also faster since it’s lighter😂

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  12. Malph Avatar
    Malph

    Last month, Car Magazine did a similar but longer test with a wider range of cars on public roads. The results showed much worse results. For example, the iD Buzz achieved a paltry 164 miles on a charge. The figures in the test are hardly representative because of the short duration and ‘sterile’ conditions. At least it highlights the limitations of these ‘cars’ but lets them off very lightly imho.

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    1. James Avatar
      James

      Well the duration was determined by when the batteries ran out!What more could you want?

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  13. Jhonny Pusong Avatar
    Jhonny Pusong

    Toyota Lexus hybrid is much better range winter or summer.
    My new Toyota hybrid has a 470 miles ranges
    Now worries for a long travel.
    EV is good only for short travel(cities)
    Home to supermarket only.😅

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  14. Mr Mawson Avatar
    Mr Mawson

    MG4 will always be a good buy

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  15. Dust 2 dust Avatar
    Dust 2 dust

    I have a Zoe 2012 with 104k km and in winter it still gives me 3.1kW/h avg. Sure the range at 100% = 105km but great for the city

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  16. Justin Sheldon Avatar
    Justin Sheldon

    2 months of Born V3 77kw driving which has just , as a whole, winter cold driving and my long term is 3.6 miles per kw. That’s in comfort mode , with heater on although I have avoided electric seats and steering wheel as the seats stay quite toasty , quite quickly. But includes more than not pre- heating to defrost and also ‘giggle miles’ showing friends how nippy it is. I am sure I will get close to 4miles per kw when it warms up. First EV and other than the infotainment is great.

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  17. Robert Taylor Avatar
    Robert Taylor

    I would love them to test my Hyundai Ioniq Electric 38kwh. I regularly get 4.5 m/kWh and even driving very ‘normal’ on the motorway over 150 miles in the winter.

    Really struggling to change it for the larger battery newer cars.

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  18. Far_Tech Avatar
    Far_Tech

    It is not the winter time who kills the battery but it is heating the car using the AirCon. It just sucks the battery which on the ICE cars, it is basically free heating. But, I don’t know why it is not mentioned that it is using AirCon in the winter and not the winter itself.
    Specially for short distances, using AirCon just kills the efficiency because the first few minutes of using AirCon is using a lot and then it uses less when the temp increases. But in short distances, you just warm up the car for nothing and kill the battery. So I use seat heating and steering heating, which by far use less battery for short distances.
    And if you have charger at home, it makes good sense to precondition the car before the leave while it is plugged in. Then the consumption will greatly improved in the winter.
    My car winter consumption in the city on average is 16 Kwh/ 100 km and if I use heatting with 21 C, it increases to 23 to 28, depends on the journy distance.

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    1. Stephen Armstrong Avatar
      Stephen Armstrong

      Partly agree to the logic but not in my case. I get cheap overnight electricity between 12:30 and 4:30 @ 7.5p per kWh. If I preheated the car using home electricity at 8am it would cost me near 40p per kWh. So in my case and a lot of others I would have thought, it makes more sense to preheat the car using its own batteries rather than the grid. Yes, the car is less efficient but it will save money overall.
      In saying this, I don’t use public chargers because I don’t do very long distances. If I did, perhaps pre-charging at home might make sense, because 40p per kWh is cheaper than most public chargers.

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  19. Andrew Larner Avatar
    Andrew Larner

    Really interesting article. My Q4 has dropped performance in the winter but the nothing that causes a problem. The lack of battery preconditioning and the impact on the charging curve is much more important. Be good to see a winter charging challenge.

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  20. What Car? Avatar
    What Car?

    What range do you need from your electric car in winter? 🥶👇

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