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Tesla V4 Superchargers Up The Game!

The Tesla Supercharger Network has been the champ of DC quick charging … if you own a Tesla. With variation 3 (V3) some stations received CCS charging through the Magic Dock but there were still a number of difficulties for a non Tesla owner. With version 4 (V4) Tesla is making considerable strides to keep it's title of "King of Charging" and the most significant beneficiaries are those with CCS connectors. The V4 station I stopped at in Wilsonville, Oregon is now up and running and as more Supercharger areas are included you make certain to see more of this brand-new system being presented. To start the V4 will have a peak charge rate of 250kw but all indications indicate increased charge rates in the future and that is going to benefit anybody taking their on a day journey or beyond.

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00:00 Introduction
00:22 Tesla Superchargers by the numbers
01:05 Tesla Charging for non Tesla Owners
01:34 The Fundamentals and Advantages of Supercharging
02:22 V4 at a glance
03:02 Throwback to the V3
04:10 New Cable Television Placement
04:22 Better Reach to Each
05:25 The Magic from the Magic Dock
06:11 TLDR, This Is Great

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24 responses to “Tesla V4 Superchargers Up The Game!”

  1. @mikethebeast1012 Avatar
    @mikethebeast1012

    The ability to pay with a card without having to establish an account with another service is the most significant improvement here.

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    1. @EVBuyersGuide Avatar
      @EVBuyersGuide

      I’m hopeful that will be the case but I haven’t seen anything that states a definitive direction for the system. -Travis

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    2. @nc3826 Avatar
      @nc3826

      @@EVBuyersGuide Travis, thank you for the overview….. Just a thought. there’s a number of channels reporting on, the progress of the V4 rollout…. I hope you can find your own unique value added space, in the YouTube evening marketplace…..

      Good luck….

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  2. @zaataravi Avatar
    @zaataravi

    The latest Hyundai OTA update last month pushed “Hyundai Pay” into my Ioniq 5 as a brand new option and had me setup a credit card on file etc. so in theory my Ioniq 5 should act like a plug and play Tesla at these stations if they can work with Hyundai Pay 🤔

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    1. @EVBuyersGuide Avatar
      @EVBuyersGuide

      It will be interesting to see how all the manufacturer systems, apps, and programs work together. Hopefully in a way that benefits the consumer, but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and reserve judgement until things start rolling out. -Travis

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  3. @laloajuria4678 Avatar
    @laloajuria4678

    V3.5

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  4. @vancity2349 Avatar
    @vancity2349

    Great video, thanks for posting. Why should you care about Telsa super chargers? Because there are the only ones that are reliable…I believe it the area of 98% of the time!

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  5. @benderbalsam7066 Avatar
    @benderbalsam7066

    Labeling the stations, 1A, 1B, etc, so low to the ground is going to be problematic when snow comes. Just a few inches will cover those labels and non Tesla cars are not going to be able to see what stall they can activate. Poor design by a company who is usually good at figuring out that stuff ahead of time.

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  6. @james2042 Avatar
    @james2042

    I know this isnt relevant to the video, but i think is a good talking point considering this is an ev focused channel.

    I was recently in a car accident where someone drove into my drivers door. Fortunately im okay, as it was a low speed accident and the car wasnt severely damaged. but despite the value of the repairs being significantly lower than the cost of the vehicle, they totaled it anyways as the battery was damaged. Now this whole perfectly restorable EV is destine for a landfill because the battery got nicked in an accident.

    This isnt a super common problem rigjt now as most battery cars are hybrid and have small centrally located batteries that are usually colission safe, but full evs are going to get totaled left and right from minor accidents because one of the battery modules got slightly bent.

    Also knowing this, i wont be buying another ev (or even phev) until they figure out the battery damage situation and dont just auto total evs with minor damage to the battery.

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    1. @4literv6 Avatar
      @4literv6

      Why assume it’s heading for a landfill smh. The U.S. recycles over 90% of all car’s sold here up to 95% of original parts content.
      It’s a top 10 gdp contributing business most year’s.

      And even in salvage value an ev pack alone is still worth $2,500-$3,500+for the materials contained inside it.

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    2. @CaptainRotmeat Avatar
      @CaptainRotmeat

      The same can be said about engine damage in an ICE vehicle. The battery is effectively the same thing in an EV is all.

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    3. @james2042 Avatar
      @james2042

      @4literv6  the battery is damaged, they flat out said the car is totaled, complete loss, and the battery will never see the road again. They might recycle it but as of now damaged batteries live in landfills for fear of lithium fires

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    4. @james2042 Avatar
      @james2042

      @CaptainRotmeat  if the damage on an ice vehicle is only assessed at a quarter of the vehicle worth, it would be repaired. They assessed the value at about a quarter of the price for damages, but since the battery was part of it they totaled a perfectly good car. They won’t even let me buy it back due to the battery damage, and the autobody shop said it was 100% fixable but insurance said no

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  7. @ceuson3 Avatar
    @ceuson3

    I gave up on charging my C-Max when I couldn’t get the system at my local Walmart to take my credit card. I’m excited that these will work with my car – especially when you said they’ll take tap-to-pay. I’ll look for a location near me.

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    1. @nc3826 Avatar
      @nc3826

      How is DCFC even compatible with your vehicle?

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    2. @EVBuyersGuide Avatar
      @EVBuyersGuide

      If you’re referring to the C-Max Energi, the PHEV model, it falls in the same category as most (but not all) plug in hybrid vehicles and only allows Level 2 charging and not Level 3 DC Fast Charging like you find with the Tesla Superchargers. -Travis

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  8. @davidws5439 Avatar
    @davidws5439

    WRONG! The VW group has NOT signed an agreement with Tesla to use the NACS connector or the CCS1 Magic Dock.

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  9. @seabream Avatar
    @seabream

    From an accessibility perspective, having the screen and handle facing to the side at that location relative to the curb looks challenging for someone in a wheelchair or other mobility device. Time will tell, but I’m really hoping that before too long either automated or wireless charging becomes standard.

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    1. @ammagee Avatar
      @ammagee

      Yeah, not sure if these are ADA accessible. Would have to analyze height, reach, etc. Aside from that, accessibility could be better.

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    2. @ammagee Avatar
      @ammagee

      Note: It looks like the one designated ADA space has the curb moved to provide additional pavement around the charger unit so there is pavement directly up to the cord/payment spot. All units really should be this way, not just one.

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    3. @seabream Avatar
      @seabream

      @@ammagee Good catch! For those curious there’s a view at 5:17. The choices made are frustrating.

      Contrast this to modern gas stations where there’s room to park and access the filler, pump interface, nozzle etc… from a wheelchair, at all spots, not just a designated space. And if there are issues, more often then not there’s an intercom, camera system, or just a window to signal for assistance from an onsite attendant. At DCFC stations at existing gas stations with attendants already on site, I have yet to see ones where it is as easy to get help.

      This isn’t just a Tesla issue, but this is a V4 video, so it’s what I talked about. There are also identification and trip planning issue on sites like Plugshare, where locations are ambiguously designated as being accessible. You’ve got locations that come up when you filter for accessible parking but if you look at the photos people have posted, the wide spots are not ones where you can plug in from – they’re just on the same property (unlike the other parking filters: “pull through”, “pull in”, and “trailer friendly” which are understood to apply to the actual charger spots). Frequently the ones for charging are regular sized pull in spots, and the DCFC units are recessed far enough from the curb/bollards that they can’t be reached from a chair, or the angle and height of the screen are bad even if they can be reached. Now, yes, if travelling as a mixed group, they can park in an accessible spot, wheelchair users can disembark to use the facilities, and then the vehicle can be moved, plugged in, etc… But a wheelchair user travelling solo is out of luck. Really these should be separate filters.

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  10. @Armour783 Avatar
    @Armour783

    You didn’t mention the biggest thing, which is that even though Version 4 dispensers are going in, the charging cabinets are still V3. Which means they are 500V capped and won’t charge any E-GMP cars (EV6, Ionic5, GV60) at their max speeds. Lucids will only charge at 50kW because of the Wunderbox and the E-GMP cars need to run the power through the rear inverter in order to reach 150kW. We need high voltage charging (1000V) in order to increase max throughput at chargers.

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    1. @nc3826 Avatar
      @nc3826

      Chicken Little, you’re incorrect V4 units with the V4 capacity cabinets are already being installed.

      It’s always amusing to hear YouTube experts, regurgitate dated news. And pedantically pontificate about what ‘we need’. Enjoy….

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  11. @nc3826 Avatar
    @nc3826

    Travis, thank you for the overview, of the V4 roll out….

    Just a thought. there’s a number of channels reporting on, the progress of the V4 rollout…. I hope you can find your own unique value added space, in the YouTube evening marketplace…

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