More Hydrogen Is (In) The Future

Toyota has been putting considerable resources into hydrogen powertrain innovation and we were able to get a behind the scenes look at some of that work. We have actually seen the Mirai on the roadway for many years now but to see a (double) Mirai powered Semi truck is various sight entirely. When it concerns "electrification" Toyota has actually had a rather controversial position however in a world that won't transform to BEVs overnight there will require to be other services available, if just transitionally.

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00:00 Intro
00:58 Hydrogen Fuel Stack
02:08 Under the Mirai
03:12 Hydrogen Tank
04:14 Hydrogen Powered Semi
05:17 Semi Powertrain Close Up
06:55 Large Scale Storage and Refueling
08:45 Next Gen Generator
09:56 Toyota Tundra TRD H2
10:57 Hydrogen Production
12:05 In Conclusion


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13 responses to “More Hydrogen Is (In) The Future”

  1. @val_ivanov Avatar
    @val_ivanov

    Toyota = Hydrogen = profit. No wonder they are not willing to invest in EVs

    1. @EVBuyersGuide Avatar
      @EVBuyersGuide

      It’s an interesting stepping stone and they seem to have explored quite a few applications. The more you can do with the research the more profit you can find in it. -Travis

  2. @naveenthemachine Avatar
    @naveenthemachine

    Hydrogen isn’t the future

    Evs are.

    1. @EVBuyersGuide Avatar
      @EVBuyersGuide

      Putting all eggs in one basket often leaves a lot of gaps. -Travis

  3. @jovar.3649 Avatar
    @jovar.3649

    Toyotas being smart, while everyone else is being stupid

    1. @ALMX5DP Avatar
      @ALMX5DP

      GM and Honda are also exploring hydrogen fairly aggressively.

  4. @val_ivanov Avatar
    @val_ivanov

    I will believe the future when I see the hydrogen distribution infrastructure in place. It’s not as easily done as electric expansion and will require either big investment in pipeline or having to rely on trucking deliveries of hydrogen. Good luck with both to make it cost effective given existing pricing.

    1. @EVBuyersGuide Avatar
      @EVBuyersGuide

      No doubt there’s a lot of work to be done but it also doesn’t need to power every vehicle on the road. That would help with infrastructure stress. -Travis

    2. @val_ivanov Avatar
      @val_ivanov

      @@EVBuyersGuide As an electric utility rep in CA, I can’t emphasize enough how much power is required (upwards of 20-30 MW, dedicated substation onsite taking transmission level voltage for service) to build hydrogen processing/distribution facility. If it’s only used for large fleets/trucks, that is a huge waste of investment/resources.

  5. @wpelfeta Avatar
    @wpelfeta

    If we are still relying on natural gas to produce hydrogen, I feel it’s not the best solution.

    1. @anydaynow01 Avatar
      @anydaynow01

      If they use pyrolysis to produce the H2 using natural gas is actually a boon. The relatively clean solid carbon precipitate can be used for a lot of good things including EV batteries so we won’t have to mine and process as much graphite. If RNG is used, it’s actually carbon neutral/negative depending on the feed stock.

  6. @anydaynow01 Avatar
    @anydaynow01

    H2 is an important step to zero CO2 emissions. BEVs are the way to go for passenger commuting appliances but for heavy transport industries like long haul cross continent trucks and ocean shipping H2 is the best solution. There needs to be a lot more government incentive (like at the BEV level) put into green H2 though, more than 90% of it come from brown and grey sources.

    Turquoise H2 has a lot of promise since the high quality carbon black is used for “cheap” graphene for next gen BEV batteries and low quality can be used as a soil additive for farming.

  7. @MistSoalar Avatar
    @MistSoalar

    Thanks Travis. Some of the ones you talked a new to me.
    It appears their tanks look are built to last, but I’m wonder the longevity of the rest of the H2 plumbing system.
    Idk how pressurized gaseous H2 cause embrittlement like LH2, but leaks inside garage can turn into instantaneous fatal event.

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