REVEALED: Used electric car batteries – do I need to worry? | Electrifying

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At .com we know that buying a used electrical vehicle can seem difficult. We surveyed 11,000 chauffeurs and 2 thirds of the people we surveyed told us they had issues and worries about one main point – the battery.

So in this video I'm going to put your mind at rest and inform you everything you require to know about the largest and essential part of an utilized electric vehicle – and describe why you actually do not require to stress.

It's understandable that and truck buyers are concerned about the battery on an utilized electric and truck degrading over time. After all, we're used to the power capacity of our devices shrinking over time, sometimes to the degree that you require to change the battery to get you through the day.

First of all, the batteries in an electric are very various to what you 'd find in a phone. Sure, they are made of the very same things, but an automobile's battery is developed to last the lifetime of the vehicle and is exceptionally well secured and engineered to lengthen their life.

When the new generation of electric cars and trucks appeared around a years back, there were rumours that the powerpacks would require changing after 3 years approximately, and would cost thousands to change. However of course that ended up not to be real – there will be some degradation, but it must take many years before it starts to have an impact on how far your cars and truck can take you.

The present crop of electrical automobile batteries lose around 5% of their capability every 100,000 miles, and experience with extremely early electric cars suggests that a well cared for battery will be good for 300,000 miles. As an outcome, many come with very long service warranties – as much as ten years in some cases.

Join Nicola as she looks into the world of used electrical batteries and explains why you truly don't require to worry about purchasing a used electric .

Have you bought an utilized electric cars and truck? Were you worried before you did? As always, we enjoy to hear what you think, so please let us know in the remarks listed below.

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32 responses to “REVEALED: Used electric car batteries – do I need to worry? | Electrifying”

  1. @EmilyMcDonald19 Avatar
    @EmilyMcDonald19

    Watching your creative process is like meeting a wizard creating magnificence out of the ordinary!💯💯 % 🍒

  2. @Pottery4Life Avatar
    @Pottery4Life

    I waited the entire video to hear how you can tell how many 0-100 kph speed runs the pervious owner(s) did showing off to their friends.

    1. @tomooo2637 Avatar
      @tomooo2637

      Just like an ICE car then, you wonder how many times it was bounced off the limiter.

    2. @davidmenasco5743 Avatar
      @davidmenasco5743

      ​@@tomooo2637Yes, and driving an EV fast does very little to the battery, compared to the damage it can do to a piston engine and transmission.

  3. @Yanquetino Avatar
    @Yanquetino

    Nicola, you are always so clever and entertaining! Who knew that you were one of quadruplets? I can attest that the petrolganda against EV batteries is just fossil foolishness. After 6 years and 78,487 miles, my EV’s battery still has 94.35% capacity.

    1. @overboost7667 Avatar
      @overboost7667

      Ahem, so it has lost more than 5% in less than 100.000 miles ? Worse than one of them promised ? Q.E.D.

  4. @sargfowler9603 Avatar
    @sargfowler9603

    You might want to watch one of Bjorn’s videos on EV batteries. He had a Tesla taxi that was supercharged a lot and it lost 16% after 245 charges and 98k kilometres.
    There needs to be a huge infrastructure that will repair your battery just like garages currently repair ICE cars. It’s just not there yet.

    1. @asjames7711 Avatar
      @asjames7711

      98,000 Km presumably

    2. @asjames7711 Avatar
      @asjames7711

      I think “buyer beware” of buying a used electric car that was a taxi with a high mileage in a short space of time. Same as a conventional used car with super high mileage in just a year or two.

    3. @jonathantaylor1998 Avatar
      @jonathantaylor1998

      @@asjames7711 interestingly, though, on the Leaf group I’m a member of, there are numerous 100,000+ mile Gen 1 Leaf examples which have really excellent battery State of Health percentages despite having been rapid charged, sometimes, multiple times daily.
      Then there are others which have been largely AC charged, with surprisingly low SoH % with only 30-40,000 miles… 🤷‍♂

  5. @toyotaprius79 Avatar
    @toyotaprius79

    Automakers should be held legally responsible for not just the batteries but for the safe and reliable longevity of every vehicle they sell. Instead of externalising the costs and responsibilities on to vulnerable, second hand owners who waited years to own their first EV.

    This includes retrofitting emissions systems of cheating diesels.

  6. @neoanderson7 Avatar
    @neoanderson7

    I always enjoy your little tech talks.. 🙂
    No one should shy away from buying a used electric. There is no difference in the protocol. You want a lower mileage vehicle, you’ll need to pay for it. You’re not going to find anything decent if you’re not willing to pay for it. I was fortunate enough to find my 2yr old Model 3 standard range in August last year. Only had 59,995k Km’s on it. Practically new all things considered. For a good chunk off the original price. Buying a new Tesla around here will still set you back 58g’s. Before taxes. Even with the government credit, you’re still looking at spending 63-64g’s once you put aside all the fees and taxes and what not. I found my 2021 Model 3 for literally half that. That’s a fair chunk saved.
    I’m hoping I’ll be set for the foreseeable future. Absolute joy to drive. I understand why there are so many on the road. 🙂

  7. @Rianewjob01 Avatar
    @Rianewjob01

    Very clever video. And informative. Not sure that you’ve sold me on replacing a car battery by comparing it to replacing engine and gearbox on an ICE car.

  8. @BMWHP2 Avatar
    @BMWHP2

    Thanks for this item. Deserves 10 x thumbs up.
    I was one of those 2/3 worrying about batteries in used EV’s. Much less now 🙂
    btw, there are a lot of you, do you have one to spare 😁, it seems to be fun to have one around.

  9. @javiTests Avatar
    @javiTests

    Except if you’re Hyundai, that if something on the road scratches the external protector of the battery, then they void your warranty and charge you the same than a new car to replace the battery (real story that happened in Canada with an Ioniq 5… twice!)

    1. @dden7670 Avatar
      @dden7670

      In this case, the Ioniq 5’s battery cover plate on the bottom of the car was scratched and showed a small deformation, which indicated the battery had suffered an impact.

  10. @johnkay1821 Avatar
    @johnkay1821

    I feel there should be a industry wide simple to read table or graphic to let the public know the condition of the Battery like a ICE car service history and MOT

    1. @tomooo2637 Avatar
      @tomooo2637

      For Tesla there is. Google is your friend.

    2. @kcebliks Avatar
      @kcebliks

      Does an IC car service history tell you if the car has only done short journeys, i.e. never warmed up or cleared the DPF filter, has the car been held on the clutch on hills, has it been driven hard when it’s cold.

  11. @contraplano3157 Avatar
    @contraplano3157

    The simpler way is use an application obd bluetooth and a phone, like car scanner

  12. @scammellman Avatar
    @scammellman

    The battery failed in My brother’s 2015 Tesla model S after 260,000 miles but the battery still had 6 weeks warranty left on it and Tesla replaced it with an updated battery, during the life of the old battery it only lost 10% in range .

    1. @SWR112 Avatar
      @SWR112

      Poor guy lucky with his battery but to live in your Car to that mileage 😂I’m doing something wrong my Car factory ordered and ten years old in April will be on 35k miles. 😂 ok two years were lost to Covid and well we couldn’t use our Cars for a month for that fuel strike where no petrol was for sale. Friend bought a second hand Porsche a classic it had lost a quite a bit of power over the years just with wear. He put it on a rolling road and got a shock. I just think of EV batteries likewise everything degrades in Cars unless at some point you spend a fortune doing a complete nut and bolt restoration.

  13. @bamber119 Avatar
    @bamber119

    Love the multiple Nicolas, great videography from the camera person. 😁👍

  14. @mansfield1971 Avatar
    @mansfield1971

    I’m all for electric but where did you get 130,000 miles for a scrapped internal combustion engine from?

    1. @tariqphoto Avatar
      @tariqphoto

      know someone driving a VW passat thats over 200,000 and no problems apart from a leak in the boot when it rains.

    2. @johnharvey1786 Avatar
      @johnharvey1786

      She didn’t actually say that, just that the average lifespan of ICE cars was 13 years before getting scrapped. It may have nothing to do with the engine, could be the gearbox or bodywork damage, anything that costs more to repair or replace than the car is worth. Obviously some ICE cars go on for significantly longer but that’s why it’s an average lifespan.

  15. @nickbull6603 Avatar
    @nickbull6603

    We’ve run two EVs to around 100,000 miles, both are first generation cars, one Nissan, and one Renault. In both cases they have rudimentary battery technology and thermal management, both vehicles retained around 90% of their original battery capacity. Newer cars will fair better.

  16. @mikadavies660 Avatar
    @mikadavies660

    All of these cars here are Stellantis models. Currently Stellantis models second-hand have devalued very highly…. and are proper bargains…. eg 2021 Citroën E-C4 approx £14,000. Saving you £20,000 over the new price!

  17. @RenaissanceManChild Avatar
    @RenaissanceManChild

    Maybe watch Bjørn Nyland’s video a day ago on an ID4 with 24% degradation on 70k miles – which VW says is tickety boo..

  18. @robonaut-nyne2331 Avatar
    @robonaut-nyne2331

    Comparing the battery of an EV with the engine of an ICE car I think is wrong. The battery is the ‘fuel’ for the EV. The equivalent in a petrol or diesel car is the fuel tank. Both have to be charged/filled when empty. I think the motor of the EV should be compared with the motor of the ICE car.

  19. @johnharvey1786 Avatar
    @johnharvey1786

    The issue is with some warranties, such as the VW warranty, is that it’s 70% capacity in 8 years or 100,000 miles. However if the battery is faulty with some bad cells and drops 28% in the first year and stays at this level it’s still considered ok so not replaceable under warranty. These warranties need to be more flexible and have a maximum % capacity drop per year that is clear and easily understood. So 95% available capacity after one year or 20,000 miles, 90% after two years or 40,000 miles, 85% after three years or 60,000 miles and so on reducing to the 70% figure at 8 years or 100,000 miles. These are still relatively poor performance requirements but would provide a degree in confidence in EV battery reliability.

  20. @anthonystevens8683 Avatar
    @anthonystevens8683

    Brilliant video Nicola. I loved the editing to introduce your many sister Nicolas. Great presentation as usual. Oddly I needed to replace my ICE car battery this week less than five years from new. But they are old school I guess, extra cost for a battery with start stop gubbins. Not cheap either.

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