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Here’s What We Really Think About Polestar
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31 responses to “Here’s What We Really Think About Polestar”
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Volvo made in China is where I go.
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Annoying take
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Means nothing about quality.
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I think that the quality is excellent from China, but I would rather see North American made, Canada, USA or Mexico.
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@Mitchell Barnow fair enough. I would like them to be made in the US for the Tax Credit.
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Oof I’m here too early. Only 360p available. I’ll check back in a few mins.
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a great discussion with tommy
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The design is fine, but the ride height just makes this thing look goofy to me. Slightly smaller wheels/tires and a 2-inch drop would go a lonnnng way towards making it look more attractive. And yeah, I don’t distinguish between Polestar and Volvo at all. At least right now, I just don’t get the point.
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I will never get a Polestar because I can’t get one serviced nearby. They should’ve been Volvos from the start. From my understanding Volvo dealers won’t touch them.
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Some Volvo dealerships can do 10k services as it us simple. Otherwise they pickup & ship it 100 miles from a Space.
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I knew a girl who’s nick name was Pole Star
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I get that you have to play the game to get access to cars, but this was FAR too shilly. Being manufactured in Chengdu, China automatically excludes it from contention as “luxury.” Especially if it’s based on a sub-compact. They are being dumped via fleet sales because they can’t compete with other EVs. Without being built in North America to qualify for the BBB tax credits, why would you buy it over an EV that doesn’t funnel money directly to the CCP?
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Because used are sub-$30’s and approaching used tax credit.
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Great video. I still have a problem with why there is a Polestar in the first place. Since all Volvo models will be EVs eventually, why have a new EV only company? Chevrolet/Cadillac, Toyota/Lexus, VW/Audi, all those brand separations make sense. Volvo is already premium/luxury. Having a another luxury brand just seems superfluous. I guess it comes down to what does Geely want from the two brands. Geely has so many brands (Volvo/Zeekr/Proton/Lynk/Lotus/Geometry/Livan/Smart JV, etc) now that it seems consolidation is inevitable.
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Very good point! On the Geely empire Zeekr is supposed to be the luxury premium and, based on the recent news from China about 001 FR, (1265 hp), the performance version. Maybe that spec will not leave China and PS will be the performance topping vehicle.
On the seemingly unlimited number of brands in Geely, I wonder if this is the same approach as some Chinese sellers have on Amazon (at least in Europe) where you can find multiple versions of the same product from differently named brands. The general understanding is they do it to help the sales if one “brand” gets destroyed by bad marketing or reviews. Then they can still sell under the other brand. Unconfirmed but not unlikely
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Polestar is my 3rd place brand on the list of brands I’d consider buying for an ev after Tesla and rivian. Don’t particularly care if the vehicle is built in the USA or not, so long as the product is good quality I’ll buy it. The polestar 4 is the one I’m interested in the most but still need to see more spec info and exactly how reviewers handle not having a rear view window and just relying on cameras for that.
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Easiest way to sum it up to folks who don’t know anything about car brands is “high performance, electric Volvo”. That or “Polestar is to Volvo what AMG is to MB”.
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Actually no. Or not quite. From engineering point of view there was no Polestar R&D, unlike AMG. The same Volvo engineers worked on Polestar Engineered as on normal Volvos. PS1, PS2 and PS3 are completely done by Volvo. PS building in Gothenburg is mostly brand related people, no engineering. There is Polestar UK team who work on PS4,5 and 6 but these are not the people who worked on Volvo Polestar cars.
Going forward all Geely cars will be the same (Zeekr 001 is Polestar 4, Zeekr X is Volvo EX30, etc) so the brand dilution will be even stronger and PS R&D will again just get a donor car from Geely SEA platform and will have to make it PS like. Put different wheels, get different colour, some small tweaks to the cabin, etc. but I’m essence they will never have the AMG top of the food chain status
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Yes, I enjoyed this conversation very much and would like to see you both together again.
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They’re stunning cars, but they’re too overpriced for the range or performance. Especially since they don’t qualify for US credits. It’s trying to be Tesla (in terms of software/purchase experience) without the Supercharger network. Plus if China won’t allow govt. employees to own Teslas due to security risks, it kinda implies there could be privacy issues with these Chinese-built vehicles.
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The used ones are getting the used EV tax credits now…
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I’ll be real, polestar 2s are on my “great deals list” for USED EVs
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Yeah. I was extremely close to buying one this summer, but I found a used 2023 Ioniq 5 that I liked better. After seeing and test driving the Polestar, I would definitely consider one in the future.
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Yes, approaching used EV tax credit pricing.
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Definitely enjoyed this format.
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Volvo is a great thing, especially since Volvo doesn’t have an EV sedan.
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I like the collaboration
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Polster as a stand alone brand exists so that Geely can sell Chinese Volvos without dealers.
That’s why they don’t shy away from their Volvo roots, they want you to think Volvo, not Geely.
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I like the video
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Which model and trim is this being driven?
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I’ve had my 2 for going on two years now and not one person has asked if it’s a Volvo which absolutely shocks me. It looks 100% Volvo to me.
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