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Can an electrical vehicle be enjoyable to drive on track? Well to discover, we've got our hands on one of the most interesting EVs around, the Hyundaio N, and we're going to compare it around Silverstone versus a M2 Competitors!

So let's see how the two compare. Beginning with the Hyundai, it's powered by 2 electrical motors which combine to produce 650hp and 770Nm of torque. Due to the 2 motors, it has 4×4, and it weighs in at 2,235 kg. As brand-new, an N costs around ₤ 65,000.

Then we pertain to the . It features the same 3-litre twin-turbo straight-six as found in the latest M3, but the output has been called down slightly, so it'll produce 460hp and 550Nm of torque. This power is delivered to the rear wheels just, and it ideas the scales at 1,725 kg. If you're wanting to buy one new, it'll set you back around ₤ 65,000.

So do you believe the EV sceptic will find any positives when taking the IONIQ on track? You'll require to stick with Mat and Sam to see for yourself!

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97 responses to “Why Electric Cars AREN’T FUN!”

  1. @ChronicBintX Avatar
    @ChronicBintX

    Had ours 3 weeks(5 N), loving it so far. Home charging a full charge is £7 (Intelligent Octopus Go), super chargers are a rob.

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    1. @03Deltaintegrale Avatar
      @03Deltaintegrale

      If you don’t mind me asking, I assume it’s on a workplace ev scheme/salary sacrifice deal and 40% tax rate payer.

      What’s the monthly cost for you?

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    2. @ChronicBintX Avatar
      @ChronicBintX

      @@03Deltaintegrale Its a fully maintained lease through a work scheme. No point giving prices unfortunately as its completely different scheme from things like sacrifice schemes etc. Suffice to say an M2 would have cost less but my 6 foot 4 boy wouldn’t fit in the back 😂and an M3 is way more expensive. The 5 N is fairly unique at the moment for the price.

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    3. @colinnicol7019 Avatar
      @colinnicol7019

      i’m thinking of getting one – do you mind me asking what everyday range are you achieving ?

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    4. @ChronicBintX Avatar
      @ChronicBintX

      ​@@colinnicol7019 224 mile indicated range at 100% charge. Did 106 miles and had 59% charge remaining and an indicated 122 miles left. Usually only charge to 80% and has around 180 mile indicated range. We generally only do a few miles a day and longer trips very rarely, so suits us great.

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    5. @mikadavies660 Avatar
      @mikadavies660

      Not only is home charging cheaper by x10 the service costs will be peanuts and the old bill won’t be pulling you over every Saturday evening…

      Reply
  2. @glenfarrugia1721 Avatar
    @glenfarrugia1721

    Agree 1000% with you Mat regarding the chargers.

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    1. @Arpedk Avatar
      @Arpedk

      Just as bad as Top gear… making EVs look like a joke on purpose… just sad.

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    2. @thesupremekai1980s Avatar
      @thesupremekai1980s

      We dont want an app for every charging station. Its absolutely insane. We also have self pay petrol stations in Japan and they are pretty reliable.

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    3. @Arpedk Avatar
      @Arpedk

      @@thesupremekai1980s Yes, just plug&charge like Tesla.

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    4. @achaz_ Avatar
      @achaz_

      @@thesupremekai1980s then use the chargemap card ! and yoiu’re really the only ones with this issue, in france, germany and switzerland, this issue doesn’t exist

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    5. @sargfowler9603 Avatar
      @sargfowler9603

      @@Arpedk just true

      Reply
  3. @1MrBryn Avatar
    @1MrBryn

    For the life of me, I don’t understand why charging stations don’t just work like a petrol station. Plug it in and then just pay with your card.
    There is zero reason for them to use an app or QR code

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    1. @lassebauer Avatar
      @lassebauer

      It´s like phone companies; the more complex it is the more they can hide the cost. It´s by design not by accident.

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    2. @BSquare1989 Avatar
      @BSquare1989

      The Tesla ones do. Even easier. Just plug and unplug – payment is automatically done via the car’s account.

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    3. @markburton8303 Avatar
      @markburton8303

      they do.

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    4. @lassebauer Avatar
      @lassebauer

      @@BSquare1989 Is the price the same no matter where you charge or at what time of the day?

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    5. @ereinaldy20 Avatar
      @ereinaldy20

      yeah, i thinking like you too.. why they do that sh*t hahahaha

      just plug in , choose what percetages of your battery and pay it, easy.

      i don;t know who make that apps more complicated.

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  4. @druscanam Avatar
    @druscanam

    Fun fact, if you’ve just been thrashing your electric car and heat your battery, the internal resistance will lower allowing for faster charging so that’s probably why your car charged faster than Hyundai claimed possible.

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    1. @astro8833 Avatar
      @astro8833

      for conductors, increase in temperature means increase in resistance

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    2. @druscanam Avatar
      @druscanam

      @@astro8833
      In a battery extra heat causes the electrolyte to become more conductive therefore lowering the internal resistance.

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    3. @Jacobwlane Avatar
      @Jacobwlane

      This is somewhat true – the rate of charge increases (as does the capacity interestingly) within batteries when they heat up as the heat further catalyses the redox reactions inside the cell, hence why modern EVs will preheat their batteries before charging or heavy driving. The other commenter is right – internal resistance does increase with heat in conductors, but the catalysing action of the heat far exceeds it. Pushing this too far is catastrophic for the battery, hence why EVs will now (paradoxically) cool their batteries whilst charging. As with any good technology, there are some massive tradeoffs though – increasing battery temperature to catalyse the reactions will damage the cell and reduce its lifespan and capacity in the long term. I’m surprised Hyundai didn’t current limit the charge rate before it reached their quoted maximum, but I would hope they would know the upper bounds for battery safety and longevity and limit the current accordingly (edit: a temporary 1kw over the max is probably a rounding error or a pre-loss measurement at the charger. I wouldn’t read into that)

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    4. @aussie2uGA Avatar
      @aussie2uGA

      @@zdkama None of that can happen as the BMS monitors it all.

      Reply
  5. @samteks125 Avatar
    @samteks125

    6:20 Mat accidentally pronounced “Porsche” correctly. Probably just because the Hyundai owner did though

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    1. @H.K_R Avatar
      @H.K_R

      He didn’t though, he said “Porsch’ has got some”

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  6. @seanbeukman9563 Avatar
    @seanbeukman9563

    What a surprise! Charging problems. Unreal. Mats rant was spot on. The Porsche guy said it all,”Good luck with that”

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    1. @achaz_ Avatar
      @achaz_

      What a surprise ! Gas station problems ! how interesting…

      Reply
    2. @aussie2uGA Avatar
      @aussie2uGA

      I can’t believe in 2024 that other makers can’t figure out the ease of Tesla Supercharging. Just plug the cable in and walk away! No phone needed, no cares, the car figures it all out. Why can’t other makers get it done like this?

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    3. @bakielh229 Avatar
      @bakielh229

      “why can’t other apps be like Google in 2024” ​@@aussie2uGA

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    4. @NomenClature-o8s Avatar
      @NomenClature-o8s

      @@aussie2uGATheoretically that’s true. Until you realize the Tesla charger is 10 miles in the wrong direction and they are all in use. I know….that NEVER happens to you. 😂

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    5. @aussie2uGA Avatar
      @aussie2uGA

      @@NomenClature-o8s You must be in a different country? In the US, there are over 20,000 superchargers – they’re everywhere. Just plug the cord in and go to the bathroom…

      Reply
  7. @adamcrane3126 Avatar
    @adamcrane3126

    Seems electric is only the go if you charge at home as fast charging is a rip off and more expensive than petroleum

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    1. @AleksandarStefanovic Avatar
      @AleksandarStefanovic

      Exactly — and fortunately, that’s what’d you’d do 95% of the time, unless you travel more than 250 miles daily. Fast chargers are expensive, but you’re only supposed to use them when traveling long distances

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    2. @jonc-1989 Avatar
      @jonc-1989

      ​@AleksandarStefanovic exactly this. Plus you don’t do a 0-100% charge on an expensive rapid charger, you just top up what you need to get to your destination

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    3. @stephenclay6852 Avatar
      @stephenclay6852

      It is if you only use rapid chargers but most people would charge at home and only use a rapid charger when absolutely needed

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    4. @dlevi67 Avatar
      @dlevi67

      It’s not just the expensive (though that doesn’t help) – it’s the faff and fragmentation: need an app here, a (dedicated) card there, a login there. All different. Why on Earth don’t they simply use the common payment circuits as any other purchase (including fuel)?

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    5. @dlevi67 Avatar
      @dlevi67

      @@AleksandarStefanovic That makes the big assumption that you have home charging available. About half the homes in the UK don’t – not as in “they don’t have it now”; as in “cannot install a home charger” because they don’t have an own car parking space (or even a public parking space reachable via a reasonable cable length from the home).

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  8. @mikadavies660 Avatar
    @mikadavies660

    Nice test… Two car costing around the same money…. However, the Hyundai would suit as a our family car better. Appreciated that it’s not perfect on all fronts, but it is a great all round performance hatchback.

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    1. @onehorsepower Avatar
      @onehorsepower

      Agree. It has the interior size of an X5M to pick a BMW equivalent. But the cg of a hot hatch….(quoted lower than i30N)

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    2. @mikadavies660 Avatar
      @mikadavies660

      @@onehorsepower Exactly… Look at Misha taking one around Nürburgring…. No brake fade, sideways through corners and past many supercars. I don’t have £65k….. But if I did, I would consider this Hyundai value for money. And in gloss black it doesn’t even stand out. Sky Blue is a bit to “Essex” for me.

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    3. @soltcolt4506 Avatar
      @soltcolt4506

      Perfect family car, you, your wife and your children will love it. You definitely need that 650hp 😂

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    4. @Astke Avatar
      @Astke

      This is only possible on EVs, have M2 performance but way more practical without costing more. People overlook this

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    5. @dylanburston7453 Avatar
      @dylanburston7453

      @@Astke It isnt.

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  9. @Timmycoo Avatar
    @Timmycoo

    That whole debacle that was Mat’s final petrol station visit was hilarious. Starting off with him walking right into the bollard, then having issues with the pump and receipt. So freaking funny lol.

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  10. @golic7123 Avatar
    @golic7123

    Nice Ioniq No. plate . . . . “Marleeennnnneeeeee!”

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    1. @dwinterx Avatar
      @dwinterx

      Be even nicer if it was legally spaced!

      Reply
  11. @Angusoksen Avatar
    @Angusoksen

    That’s just poor planning. At Denmarks largest track We have 4X 400kW chargers just outside the track entrance. We had them for 2 years! It’s not that difficult!

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    1. @biafo4541 Avatar
      @biafo4541

      Thanks for that tip, if you want to race your EV on a track, a trip to Denmarks largest track is the way

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    2. @enricocolombo Avatar
      @enricocolombo

      Yes but in Denmark you can buy two i5N at M2 price thanks to ICE tax…
      Nice 👍🏻

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    3. @purwantiallan5089 Avatar
      @purwantiallan5089

      ​@@enricocolomboICE tax is rated at 8.9 percent on these cars.

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    4. @Astke Avatar
      @Astke

      @@biafo4541 Too bad going on track is not that important to pretty much 99% of people. otherwise this would maybe become a problem…

      Reply
    5. @nurburgringuk Avatar
      @nurburgringuk

      @@Astkebut the point of this video is if an electric car is fun to drive and taking it on track is far easier to explore that fun than on public roads.

      Reply
  12. @w1ldwesty Avatar
    @w1ldwesty

    It’s like the people who designed the charging systems have never used a car before. Why on earth cant you just tap a card and charge up.

    Reply
    1. @aussie2uGA Avatar
      @aussie2uGA

      I can’t believe in 2024 that other makers can’t figure out the ease of Tesla Supercharging. Just plug the cable in and walk away! No phone needed, no cares, the car figures it all out. Why can’t other makers get it done like this?

      Reply
    2. @karlwest437 Avatar
      @karlwest437

      ​@@aussie2uGAyep Tesla showed everyone exactly how it should be done and they still can’t get it right

      Reply
    3. @biafo4541 Avatar
      @biafo4541

      It’s like telling people that they gonna built water ways all over and that we should buy boats.
      The water ways is 0.5 complete, but pls go ahead and buy the boats immediately 😂

      Reply
    4. @00Silvin00 Avatar
      @00Silvin00

      I don’t know about Britain but on the European mainland most charging stations work with tap-and-go. And some stations (Fastned for example) let you register your car if wanted. In that case is just a case of plugging in, charge and drive off. Invoice will be in your mailbox at the end of the month. It’s my primary reason for using these.

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    5. @drunkenhobo8020 Avatar
      @drunkenhobo8020

      ​@@aussie2uGAMaybe Tesla have a major stake in making sure EVs are easy to charge. Shell and VW? Well maybe they want the opposite…

      Reply
  13. @onehorsepower Avatar
    @onehorsepower

    2,2 tonne, 500kg more than the M2! Wow who would have thought that for a car with the interior size of an X5M that weighs, real life, 2,4 tonnes and at that weight with V8 biturbo and 625hp is still significantly slower… Not mentioning price and running costs… so we need to get an M2 to make it “comparable” 😀

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    1. @dylanburston7453 Avatar
      @dylanburston7453

      BMWs, especially this current generation and especially the M5, are fat, and are getting bullied for it. This M2 is 160KG more than the old one. The G90 M5 (2024) is 400KG heavier than the F90 one, and thats mostly from the hybrid battery, and doesnt add much power.

      German cars in general are getting fat. The M5, the new AMG GT (a four door saloon and two door sports car) are both heavier than a Purosangue, a SUV with a 6.5L V12.

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    2. @karolmaciejewski340 Avatar
      @karolmaciejewski340

      ​@@dylanburston7453f87 comp with full tank is 1655kg on a scale , G87 is 1725kg with full tank , 1715kg with carbon buckets and carbon roof . Put li-ion battery and forged wheels and it will be around 1680kg

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    3. @dylanburston7453 Avatar
      @dylanburston7453

      @@karolmaciejewski340 The M2 is (mostly) unscathed by the german car industry bloat, thankfully.
      But im genuinely stumped as to where BMW, Merc are finding all the wieght. Its ridiculous.

      How the hell did they make the AMG GT over 2 tonnes, at least the UK specs. They added a couple of seats (IDK why, isnt that what the SL is for)

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  14. @UncleChopChop22 Avatar
    @UncleChopChop22

    Matt getting humbled at Porsche:
    Matt:Im matt walsh.
    Porsche: Thats a no from out the back.

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    1. @purwantiallan5089 Avatar
      @purwantiallan5089

      Alfa Romeo to Porsche: No room out of the front of the box.

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    2. @ericedge2929 Avatar
      @ericedge2929

      *Watson

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    3. @mediocreman2 Avatar
      @mediocreman2

      His name is Mat Watson. Matt Walsh is the legend that is opening people’s eyes to the flaws of the religion of woke.

      Reply
    4. @datoome_ Avatar
      @datoome_

      @@mediocreman2can’t wait to watch his new documentary

      Reply
    5. @goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Avatar
      @goldenageofdinosaurs7192

      @@mediocreman2lol, that guy is a complete joke🤣

      Reply
  15. @Foiiiii1 Avatar
    @Foiiiii1

    I own a MK5 Supra which I regularly drive and take to the circuit, and no electric car or legislation is ever going to take it away from my hands.

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    1. @danharold3087 Avatar
      @danharold3087

      In the US I don’t see anyone talking about taking away petro cars yet. At worst I expect them to be banned from some cities. Which has yet to be done.

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    2. @TheMadmax0609 Avatar
      @TheMadmax0609

      Relax guy, no one’s going to take away your precious Supra. 🤣

      Reply
  16. @jinx20001 Avatar
    @jinx20001

    I think its grossly exaggerated how bad the infrastructure is honestly, i have an Ioniq 5 and the experience shown does not really correlate to the experience of owning one… in fact the infrastructure is one of the very first things that really took me by surprise, chargers are absolutely everywhere, pub car parks, shopping centers, petrol stations, theme parks etc… not so much in more rural areas ofcourse but its really quite easy to plan a stop, if the car itself does not tell you (which it does) there are numerous apps to choose from which tell you where chargers are, how much they cost, how fast they are, even if there are cars already plugged into them. In around 9000 miles with our car now we have had to publicly charge twice with the rest being done at home and we have never had to ”wait” for the charge at all because most normal people travel somewhere to do something. So… yeh its not really showing the true advantages of owning one in the real world, our previous car was a 2023 seat tarraco and it cost us minimum £40 a week in fuel, the EV costs £3-4 a week for almost 300 miles of driving.

    A track day is obviously one of the very worst examples of what living with the car is like knowing you will be at full bore in the car constantly and will need to charge it while you are there and with nothing much else to do you will inevitably have to wait. So while the experience does show where improvements can be made i think its disingenuous to make out this is what living with the car is like… unless you do a track day once a week. But there is no doubt about it, EV’s are a long way off from having the track endurance an ICE car has.

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    1. @nathansuss Avatar
      @nathansuss

      Spot on🎯

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    2. @Vandassar Avatar
      @Vandassar

      I get what you mean. But there’s nowhere in this video where they mentioned anything to do with what the car is like to live with.

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    3. @AndersLundin-gp2ey Avatar
      @AndersLundin-gp2ey

      Yeah, this is very biased. The whole video starts with introducing the most anti EV guy, so no big surprise.
      If you can charge at home and your daily commute is within the range of a modern EV, it’s more convenient to own than an ICE car, and the running cost is just uncomparable.
      Otherwise, don’t buy an EV yet. And of course its not as smooth as an ICE car for track days, but it’s kind of obvious?
      But the trouble with charging seems exagerated to fit the narrative of the video. I have an EV6 GT and both the Kia charging app and the on board gps will show me the fast chargers. With the app or with my kia charging card I have never exprrienced any problem anywhere with public chargers – just blip the card and you’re charging withinin a few seconds.

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    4. @jinx20001 Avatar
      @jinx20001

      @@Vandassar That is true but its very easy to derive this notion from the video… its naturally lopsided in the favor of the petrol car… and it should be because on a track is where petrol has a serious advantage. But then to go on and say the infrastructure is just terrible and the cost of filling the car with electricity looks to be almost the same as a petrol car etc… its all just not really reality today from an owners perspective, most owners for example will have a home charging point and will be on an EV specific tariff which means you can charge the car for literal pennies rather than pounds.

      These are hot topic talking points from 10 years ago when charging stations for example really were rare to see and often broken… but today, its just not really like that. The reason its not like that is because EV’s are still relatively rare to see ofcourse… if EV’s were as abundant as petrol cars the infrastructure would be hopeless but its not.

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    5. @jinx20001 Avatar
      @jinx20001

      @@AndersLundin-gp2ey yup exactly, an owners perspective really is very different… the first couple of hours of ownership can have you in a twist, like what apps do i need and whatever but then its pretty smooth sailing.

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  17. @osceli9682 Avatar
    @osceli9682

    Race electrons. Someone somewhere will sell this.

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    1. @Snerdles Avatar
      @Snerdles

      Audiophile EV owners salivating about race electrons using deionized directional charging cables for the cleanest possible charging signal!

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    2. @osceli9682 Avatar
      @osceli9682

      @@Snerdles it’s like those 100 dollar hdmi cables vs 8 dollar hdmi cables.

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    3. @valuemastery Avatar
      @valuemastery

      Also, if you want to go really fast, you shouldn’t charge green electricity. Use 100% nuclear power for best acceleration.

      Reply
  18. @carwow Avatar
    @carwow

    Change your car with Carwow: https://bit.ly/-Change-Your-Car-2409

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    1. @poplaurentiu4148 Avatar
      @poplaurentiu4148

      Choosing to keep a friendly ending scoring equal 1 / 1 was a smart move however one could argue both can have advantages & losses and the fact that Hyundai engineers did such a great job with ioniq 5N to the point it keeps up and can overpass on full speed on track higher class more expensive performance cars (i spot Ferrari & Porsches even though was for a short period just for as long as the battery electric juice is not depleted) that is another story but a very cool one as example for future EV’s..

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    2. @tubesod Avatar
      @tubesod

      Thought it read “charge your car with carwow” 😂

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    3. @danwyatt6703 Avatar
      @danwyatt6703

      Got a Hyundai EV? Find Charge My Hyundai on your app store! No need for loads of charging apps!

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    4. @ross-carlson Avatar
      @ross-carlson

      MOAR OF THIS PLZ!!!

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  19. @HanaRebecca Avatar
    @HanaRebecca

    An Ioniq N passing supercars will always be funny.

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    1. @tsaki_titan Avatar
      @tsaki_titan

      Still gay.

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    2. @bradleylauterbach7920 Avatar
      @bradleylauterbach7920

      @@tsaki_titan Insecure much?

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    3. @tsaki_titan Avatar
      @tsaki_titan

      @@bradleylauterbach7920 define insecurity.

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    4. @ThatSpecificIndividual Avatar
      @ThatSpecificIndividual

      ​@@tsaki_titanso what?

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    5. @tsaki_titan Avatar
      @tsaki_titan

      @@ThatSpecificIndividual tf you mean so what?

      Reply
  20. @henrytang2203 Avatar
    @henrytang2203

    What’s insane is that the 1800kg M2 weighs more than the Ford Falcon I used to own. 2006 model, large interior, 5m long and only 1700kg with fluids and heavy. Soon any car below 2000kg will be considered light.

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    1. @greattoseerobinscore Avatar
      @greattoseerobinscore

      Yeah just modern BMW things and ghey electronics.

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    2. @dannywhite132 Avatar
      @dannywhite132

      Mostly because of safety. Modern cars have far more regulation around crumple zones etc as well as all the tech on board as well.

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    3. @CoinLaundry500 Avatar
      @CoinLaundry500

      The actual official kerb weight of the G87 M2 is 1730kg and a 2014 XR6 Turbo has an official kerb weight of 1776kg, but yeah still pretty crazy to think the last gens m3 is lighter than this m2.

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    4. @langsor Avatar
      @langsor

      I hate this trend. Keep my Miata forever 😀 And I wish that was lighter.

      Reply

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